trinydex
04-12-2007, 08:14 PM
i will say this for the last time as this has GOT to be the definitive thread.
TME is the turbo that came on the evo 6.5 tme. it has titanium aluminide turbine wheel. it has a 10.5 housing also. otheriwse the compressor is the same but revisions have been made to the newer turbine housings so this turbo is outdated at best.
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%20its%20 variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20b01.jpg
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%20its%20 variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20b02.jpg
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%20its%20 variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20b03.jpg
WR also known as the fp white rabbit turbo. this is simply an evo 8 turbo (05) with a larger FIVE BLADED compressor wheel installed by forced performance.
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20c01.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20c02.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20c03.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20c04.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20c05.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20c06.jp g
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 8 AND 9 TURBO.
both have 10.5 hot side. both have unaltered turbine wheels. both use the same chra, this means you can swap and mix and match these two turbo's parts to your heart's content (tme9 plug inserted here).
the cold side is the only difference. 9 cold side housing has a larger diffuser, this is the snail section, it's both longer and wider in diameter inside, this creates a faster boost up/boost production/boost response. as a result of the added length of the snail section also known as diffuser, the overall housing is larger. the exducer of the 9 turbo is larger to fill up the space inside of the 9 housing (see below for caveats). the inducer remains relatively the same size.
the reason for br moving to 9 housing is to remove all chances of surge on his and now fp's wheel, larger housing also allows more air through even though the wheel that the 20gs are using is based off the old 8 housing which would leave exducer diameters smaller!
small things that are different. the angling of the turbo oil lines is slightly off due to the 9 housing size. the angle of the coolant line is also a bit off. these two can be bent to fit. the cold side outlet pipe is much different and you can't bend this unit to fit it between the two turbos. so the outlet elbow pipe is the only thing you need from the install kit. everything else can be bent to fit.
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/9%20turbo%20install%20kit.jpg
20g-8 or 20g8-6. this was a failure 6 bladed stock turbo that surged like shit. came as the first iteration of the failed turbochargers.com and buschur partner up.
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%20its%20 variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20d01.jpg
20g-9-6. this is turbochargers.com's previous and fouled venture with br. it is less efficient than the 5 blade design. also not recommended for use with ti al internals. tc.com and it's distributors have however sold these with ti al internals. the ti al internals are not real genuine oem pieces but are copies of tme style ti al wheels.
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%2001a.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%2002a.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%2003a.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%2004a.jp g
20g-9-5. this is the buschur and fp joint venture turbo. it has the wr style 5 bladed design. this turbo is not recommended for ti al internals.
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_5blade.jpg
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/5blade2.jpg
TME9. now everyone pay attention cuz i'm really quite tired of explaining what this is and no one can get it straight. the tme 9 is the ENTIRE TME 6.5 HOT SIDE mated to THE ENTIRE EVO9 COLD SIDE. that said you can make this turbo several different ways. you can get a 9 turbo and put the tme6.5 ti/al TURBINE wheel in it. or you could piece together the two halves.? or you could buy every part seperately and put it together.
JDM 9RS turbo. this turbo is special, it comes with the equivalent of a 10.5 hot side (with internals, ti/al) and a 9 cold side with the addition of a magnesium 9 compressor wheel. early runs of the jdm 9rs turbo had mag wheel failures with increased boost pressures.
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/mag%20turbo.jpg
this signifies that the tme9 is safe to run and will cause no surging or too-early-spool-up- issues. as the jdm 9rs turbo spools even faster with no ill effects. this also signifies a different way to piece together a tme9, basically taking a jdm 9rs turbo and replacing the mag wheel with an aluminum one.
forced performance evo green aka buschur racing 20gLT (large turbine) this turbo is basically a 20g9-5 with a larger turbine wheel made by forced performance.
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%20its%20 variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20e01.jpg
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%20its%20 variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20e02.jpg
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%20its%20 variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20e03.jpg
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%20its%20 variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20e04.jpg
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20e05.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20e06.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20e07.jp g
thread about evo green turbo aka 20glt
http://www.socalevo.net/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=37&topic=25963.0
turbo dynamics is one of many uk companies which specialize in ball bearing cartridge 16g turbos. they have recently made a ball bearing 16g with the WR wheel.
http://www.socalevo.net/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=37&topic=32342.0
other uk shops doing ball bearing 16g turbos include essex turbo
and evo400
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/evo400%209%20turbo%20with%20restrictor.jpg
evo400 evo9 turbo with restrictor
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_evo400%20wrc%20turbo.jpg
evo400 wrc turbo
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/evo%20400ball%20bearing%20conversions.jpg
evo400 ball bearing conversion kit
the uk turbos suffer from huge price inflations due to limited production, high amount of requisite precision work and vat plus exchange rate hikes
TME is the turbo that came on the evo 6.5 tme. it has titanium aluminide turbine wheel. it has a 10.5 housing also. otheriwse the compressor is the same but revisions have been made to the newer turbine housings so this turbo is outdated at best.
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%20its%20 variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20b01.jpg
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%20its%20 variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20b02.jpg
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%20its%20 variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20b03.jpg
WR also known as the fp white rabbit turbo. this is simply an evo 8 turbo (05) with a larger FIVE BLADED compressor wheel installed by forced performance.
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20c01.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20c02.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20c03.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20c04.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20c05.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20c06.jp g
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 8 AND 9 TURBO.
both have 10.5 hot side. both have unaltered turbine wheels. both use the same chra, this means you can swap and mix and match these two turbo's parts to your heart's content (tme9 plug inserted here).
the cold side is the only difference. 9 cold side housing has a larger diffuser, this is the snail section, it's both longer and wider in diameter inside, this creates a faster boost up/boost production/boost response. as a result of the added length of the snail section also known as diffuser, the overall housing is larger. the exducer of the 9 turbo is larger to fill up the space inside of the 9 housing (see below for caveats). the inducer remains relatively the same size.
the reason for br moving to 9 housing is to remove all chances of surge on his and now fp's wheel, larger housing also allows more air through even though the wheel that the 20gs are using is based off the old 8 housing which would leave exducer diameters smaller!
small things that are different. the angling of the turbo oil lines is slightly off due to the 9 housing size. the angle of the coolant line is also a bit off. these two can be bent to fit. the cold side outlet pipe is much different and you can't bend this unit to fit it between the two turbos. so the outlet elbow pipe is the only thing you need from the install kit. everything else can be bent to fit.
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/9%20turbo%20install%20kit.jpg
20g-8 or 20g8-6. this was a failure 6 bladed stock turbo that surged like shit. came as the first iteration of the failed turbochargers.com and buschur partner up.
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%20its%20 variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20d01.jpg
20g-9-6. this is turbochargers.com's previous and fouled venture with br. it is less efficient than the 5 blade design. also not recommended for use with ti al internals. tc.com and it's distributors have however sold these with ti al internals. the ti al internals are not real genuine oem pieces but are copies of tme style ti al wheels.
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%2001a.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%2002a.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%2003a.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%2004a.jp g
20g-9-5. this is the buschur and fp joint venture turbo. it has the wr style 5 bladed design. this turbo is not recommended for ti al internals.
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_5blade.jpg
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/5blade2.jpg
TME9. now everyone pay attention cuz i'm really quite tired of explaining what this is and no one can get it straight. the tme 9 is the ENTIRE TME 6.5 HOT SIDE mated to THE ENTIRE EVO9 COLD SIDE. that said you can make this turbo several different ways. you can get a 9 turbo and put the tme6.5 ti/al TURBINE wheel in it. or you could piece together the two halves.? or you could buy every part seperately and put it together.
JDM 9RS turbo. this turbo is special, it comes with the equivalent of a 10.5 hot side (with internals, ti/al) and a 9 cold side with the addition of a magnesium 9 compressor wheel. early runs of the jdm 9rs turbo had mag wheel failures with increased boost pressures.
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/mag%20turbo.jpg
this signifies that the tme9 is safe to run and will cause no surging or too-early-spool-up- issues. as the jdm 9rs turbo spools even faster with no ill effects. this also signifies a different way to piece together a tme9, basically taking a jdm 9rs turbo and replacing the mag wheel with an aluminum one.
forced performance evo green aka buschur racing 20gLT (large turbine) this turbo is basically a 20g9-5 with a larger turbine wheel made by forced performance.
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%20its%20 variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20e01.jpg
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%20its%20 variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20e02.jpg
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%20its%20 variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20e03.jpg
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%20its%20 variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20e04.jpg
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20e05.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20e06.jp g
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_TECH%20ARTICLE%2016g%20turbos%20and%20all%2 0its%20variants%20%2820g%20and%20green%29%20e07.jp g
thread about evo green turbo aka 20glt
http://www.socalevo.net/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=37&topic=25963.0
turbo dynamics is one of many uk companies which specialize in ball bearing cartridge 16g turbos. they have recently made a ball bearing 16g with the WR wheel.
http://www.socalevo.net/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=37&topic=32342.0
other uk shops doing ball bearing 16g turbos include essex turbo
and evo400
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/evo400%209%20turbo%20with%20restrictor.jpg
evo400 evo9 turbo with restrictor
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/normal_evo400%20wrc%20turbo.jpg
evo400 wrc turbo
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10991/evo%20400ball%20bearing%20conversions.jpg
evo400 ball bearing conversion kit
the uk turbos suffer from huge price inflations due to limited production, high amount of requisite precision work and vat plus exchange rate hikes