2009 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart Announced!

[DirectorSe7en]

2009 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart

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What is it?
2009 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart


What's special about it?
If we were making a list of things to do before dying, owning a Lancer Evolution would be in the top 50, if not the top 10. For those who can't afford to spend $35,000, we would have previously advised curling up in the fetal position with a PS2 and a copy of Gran Turismo 4. Now, however, we can suggest the 2009 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart, which looks to be a legitimate Evo Lite.

Unlike the last Ralliart, this one starts with the right drivetrain parts — genuine Evo-derived stuff. Instead of a dull, naturally aspirated 2.4-liter engine, it has a detuned version of the Evo X's turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder good for an estimated 235 horsepower and 253 pound-feet of torque. Compare this to 224 hp and 226 lb-ft of torque in Subaru's Impreza WRX.

Although we had expected Mitsubishi to stick with a conventional five-speed manual gearbox in the Lancer Ralliart, it now appears the company will offer only its six-speed Twin Clutch-Sequential Sportshift Transmission (TC-SST), which we've found quite effective in the Evo X MR.

The dual-clutch gearbox drives all four of the '09 Lancer Ralliart's wheels through an all-wheel-drive system with an active center differential. Just as in the Evo VIII, IX and X, the driver can choose from Tarmac, Gravel and Snow driving modes. Although the Ralliart won't have the Evo X's Active Yaw Control (AYC) feature, it still has a mechanical rear limited-slip differential and a helical LSD up front.

Mitsubishi hasn't gotten specific about suspension changes on the 2009 Ralliart, and the showcar wears the same P215/45R18 Dunlop SP Sport 5000M all-season tires as our long-term '08 Lancer GTS. However, we'd be very surprised if the company didn't offer a summer tire option for the Ralliart.


What's Edmunds' take?
We're a little disappointed the 2009 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart won't have a normal manual transmission. Even with the sophisticated automated sequential gearbox, though, this is probably the car that will drive the soggy WRX to an early refresh.


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I must admit, this little beast is looking to be a great car for the money. I'd guess launch MSRP to be $24,995 and fully loaded with Recaros, HID's to be around $28,995. If the Evo X didn't exist, I'd be getting this for sure.

I think this is now the best car for the money, and it was genious of Mitsubishi to release something not quite as big as an Evo but better then their regular Lancer.

Evo IX drivetrain, Evo X tranny,Â*AWD, & Turbo for $25k??Â* Anyone who is currently looking for a DD looking at this as a real option?

[SavageEvo8]

ralliart over wrx for sure

[chrisw]

Lancer prototype S FTW 8)

[DoggDicker]

Whatever...

DD

[Bagsik_EVOVIII]

dang .....im about to like it....

[DirectorSe7en]

^Could be your new DD?




Whatever...
Hater...

[ZK]

I'm actually looking forward to the new 370Z coming out.

3.7 liter 330hp RWD from the G37 in the lighter and more nimble body of a 350Z for under 30K. :)

[Bagsik_EVOVIII]

yup...not in a hurry though..cuz mitsu might still do upgrades with this....like what they did with the GSR / MR

[DirectorSe7en]

I'm actually looking forward to the new 370Z coming out.

3.7 liter 330hp RWD from the G37 in the lighter and more nimble body of a 350Z for under 30K.

Yea, but what is that going to cost? Sounds expensive....

[ZK]

I'm actually looking forward to the new 370Z coming out.

3.7 liter 330hp RWD from the G37 in the lighter and more nimble body of a 350Z for under 30K.

Yea, but what is that going to cost? Sounds expensive....


I mentioned the price in my post. It will sell for about the same as the current 350Z as it will replace the 350Z.

[SavageEvo8]

I'm actually looking forward to the new 370Z coming out.

3.7 liter 330hp RWD from the G37 in the lighter and more nimble body of a 350Z for under 30K. :)


that thing is ugly, it needs a makover before hitting production for sure

[DirectorSe7en]

I'm actually looking forward to the new 370Z coming out.

3.7 liter 330hp RWD from the G37 in the lighter and more nimble body of a 350Z for under 30K.


Yea, but what is that going to cost? Sounds expensive....


I mentioned the price in my post. It will sell for about the same as the current 350Z as it will replace the 350Z.


:oops: lol, I see.

It looks alright. More modding potential seems to be with the Lancer though as it shares parts with the Evo.

[earlyapex aka jack ass]

Hmm...

Battery back in the engine bay, Air intake different, air filter box moved back towards the firewall. Plastic bov...

The black plastic cover over the motor looks better than the Evo rad one though...

[PANGES]

The interior looks just as crappy. :lol:

[DirectorSe7en]

^Well for those of us who haven't owned better then a used car from the 80's that interior is gorgeous and more then I'll ever need.

[earlyapex aka jack ass]

^Well for those of us who haven't owned better then a used car from the 80's that interior is gorgeous and more then I'll ever need.


Press shots always make the interior look good. Take this one for instance:

http://www.norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/tech/large_aveo_interior.jpg

It's a friggen.... Aveo. ;)

[hagakure]

350z+nimble=oxymoron





I'm actually looking forward to the new 370Z coming out.

3.7 liter 330hp RWD from the G37 in the lighter and more nimble body of a 350Z for under 30K. :)

[PANGES]

^Well for those of us who haven't owned better then a used car from the 80's that interior is gorgeous and more then I'll ever need.


But you've owned an Evo VIII and I'd say the 8/9 interiors look nicer.

[bdking57]

I predict this cars going to make all the tuners rich...now everyones gonna have a damn mitsu turbo with that very low entry price. I cant say im that tempted to jump in a new evo at this point because of the price, but I would trade way down to this, have fun.. save some cash. :D



Hmm...

Battery back in the engine bay, Air intake different, air filter box moved back towards the firewall. Plastic bov...

The black plastic cover over the motor looks better than the Evo rad one though...

[earlyapex aka jack ass]

I predict this cars going to make all the tuners rich...now everyones gonna have a damn mitsu turbo with that very low entry price.



I wish, but I don't think I'll ever get rich from tuning... haha

[bdking57]

you can only get so many cars on the dyno during a day... this is why all the cash is with the dreaded shiv formula... respect for not selling out :lol:





I predict this cars going to make all the tuners rich...now everyones gonna have a damn mitsu turbo with that very low entry price.



I wish, but I don't think I'll ever get rich from tuning... haha

[earlyapex aka jack ass]

you can only get so many cars on the dyno during a day... this is why all the cash is with the dreaded shiv formula... respect for not selling out :lol:


hmm, maybe that's why he has a Lambo and I have a beat-up do everything Evo.

Alright time to make shiny rebranded boxes and sell tuna-can tunes for $1500 a pop...

Lambo here I come!!

;)

[bdking57]

Thats the power of marketing, there are enought talented people around here to put together a bullet proof business plan.

Just throwing this out without much thought, If groups of shops were able to combine their efforts under one umbrella with a distintive brand and marketing appeal, they would be able invest more R&D into the engineering aspect, making intakes, exhaust, cams wheels etc, of a high quality..while picking up a brand premium from this new image they have created... all the money is in the brand premium aspect of this business...however your cant build it without enough cooperation from other tuners.

[whtrice]

Get in on the upgraded trans and flywheel business now. I can see the pile of transmissions building as quick as Subie blocks. Bryan you can be the new West coast Shep!!

[bdking57]

thats a pretty good idea... is bryan into trannys though?

http://www.tranny-blog.com/uploaded_images/tranny-732986.jpg

[whtrice]

These kind are too "broke" to fix.. :lol:



thats a pretty good idea... is bryan into trannys though?

http://www.tranny-blog.com/uploaded_images/tranny-732986.jpg

[earlyapex aka jack ass]

Get in on the upgraded trans and flywheel business now. I can see the pile of transmissions building as quick as Subie blocks. Bryan you can be the new West coast Shep!!


Paul L is already the West coast Shep. :)

[DirectorSe7en]

^Well for those of us who haven't owned better then a used car from the 80's that interior is gorgeous and more then I'll ever need.


Press shots always make the interior look good. Take this one for instance:

http://www.norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/tech/large_aveo_interior.jpg

It's a friggen.... Aveo. ;)


lol. Hey your a camera guy. What kind of lens would I need to use to get a shot like that? Seems like reverse fisheye... :?

[Ben]

Get in on the upgraded trans and flywheel business now. I can see the pile of transmissions building as quick as Subie blocks. Bryan you can be the new West coast Shep!!


Paul L is already the West coast Shep. :)


Can you be the Nor Cal Buschur?

[Ben]

I can't really see the exterior difference between that an an Evo X.

[AWDrift]

+1 ^

the only difference i see is the plastic thing in the front.

[DirectorSe7en]

It's nothing obvious, the only difference visualy is the wider body and rear diffuser.

[AWDrift]

honestly i see no difference lol.

but i guess if you put the two infront of me i may see some slight differences..people with the RA's can easily get a X styled bumper..an evolution badge and call it a X..

[DirectorSe7en]

Yea, let them....then when they try to pass me, I'll remind them what they really are.....

[AWDrift]

it really is a bummer that they dont have the 5spd. though =\

[DoggDicker]

Still blah...it's a nice watered down version of the X...

DD

[DirectorSe7en]

^For 10k less then an MR.

[bdking57]

Its called "turn shit into gold" obviously







^Well for those of us who haven't owned better then a used car from the 80's that interior is gorgeous and more then I'll ever need.


Press shots always make the interior look good. Take this one for instance:

http://www.norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/tech/large_aveo_interior.jpg

It's a friggen.... Aveo. ;)


lol. Hey your a camera guy. What kind of lens would I need to use to get a shot like that? Seems like reverse fisheye... :?

[ZK]

350z+nimble=oxymoron



I'm actually looking forward to the new 370Z coming out.

3.7 liter 330hp RWD from the G37 in the lighter and more nimble body of a 350Z for under 30K. :)



Well, more nimble than the current one. The 350z is 3600lbs. They're going to shave it down a couple of hundred lbs, reduce the size of the car, give it a facelift and the bigger 3.7 motor.

We'll see what the end result is like but so far it looks like a good deal. And RWD throttle steer is always fun.

[leaveit2bevo]

I wonder how detuned that motor is going to be, maybe smaller turbo? If it gets the full shit its going to suck when those start making evo X numbers for 10gs less.

[DirectorSe7en]

The RA has smaller cams, smaller turbo and smaller intercooler. Much work and $$$ needed.

[leaveit2bevo]

damn thats a decent amount, I wonder how heavy its going to be I have a feeling its going to get close to X weight.

[DirectorSe7en]

Your probably right.

It'll weight as much if not heavier then the MR seeing as how it wont benefit from the MR's aluminum roof, aluminium panels, 2 piece rotors, etc. and adds the massive weight of the MR's tranny. :shock:

Should be a fat S.O.B.

[jdmSpecMR]

Whatever...

DD


could not have said it better :lol:

[sprytsi]

I can't really see the exterior difference between that an an Evo X.


I can't see exterior differences between the Evo X and the Lancer....

[jdmSpecMR]

I can't really see the exterior difference between that an an Evo X.


I can't see exterior differences between the Evo X and the Lancer....


I can't really see the exterior differences between the lancer and the Evo X...

[earlyapex aka jack ass]

I can't really see the exterior difference between that an an Evo X.


I can't see exterior differences between the Evo X and the Lancer....


I can't really see the exterior differences between the lancer and the Evo X...


I can't really... ;)

You guys don't notice the lack of larger fenders at all? :-/

[DirectorSe7en]

I do! I keep telling them, but they're being difficult. :?

[DoggDicker]

I can't really see the exterior difference between that an an Evo X.


I can't see exterior differences between the Evo X and the Lancer....


I can't really see the exterior differences between the lancer and the Evo X...


I can't really... ;)

You guys don't notice the lack of larger fenders at all? :-/


I didn't even look to see if there was a difference...

DD

[AWDrift]

lol ^

[DirectorSe7en]

Then that's why you didn't notice a difference, you didn't look.

[AWDrift]

looking at his other posts..i really doubt he wants to look at the car :lol:

[DirectorSe7en]

Yea, guess so.

Sucks being the only X fanboy around these here forums....

[DoggDicker]

Then that's why you didn't notice a difference, you didn't look.


True...that's cuz I don't care...



Yea, guess so.

Sucks being the only X fanboy around these here forums....


I guess someone needs to be...right...you, Vishnu and Buschur...or whatever his name is...haha...

DD

[jdmSpecMR]

Yea, guess so.

Sucks being the only X fanGIRL! around these here forums....


edited... :lol:



Then that's why you didn't notice a difference, you didn't look.


good point :thumbsup: i didnt just liek DD :lol:

[Ben]

Yea, guess so.

Sucks being the only X fanboy around these here forums....


Yeah you gotta join the league of X owners already.

[DaveLC2]

350z+nimble=oxymoron



I'm actually looking forward to the new 370Z coming out.

3.7 liter 330hp RWD from the G37 in the lighter and more nimble body of a 350Z for under 30K. :)



Well, more nimble than the current one. The 350z is 3600lbs. They're going to shave it down a couple of hundred lbs, reduce the size of the car, give it a facelift and the bigger 3.7 motor.

We'll see what the end result is like but so far it looks like a good deal. And RWD throttle steer is always fun.


Actually I think the 350Z's curb weight is 3,339lbs if I am not mistaken.

Dave

[Sfkn2]

+1 for the Lancer!

[Unowned]

I'd still vote for Evo, it's just so much easier to drive at the limit. But to vote I'd vote lancer :D

[Limeyboy]

Id be interested in knowing how to reverse that 'de-tuning' ;) Surely its not just going to be some bolt on parts and a reflash to bring it close to its big bro?

[DirectorSe7en]

Id be interested in knowing how to reverse that 'de-tuning' ;) Surely its not just going to be some bolt on parts and a reflash to bring it close to its big bro?

Well, maybe, the only major parts are a smaller turbo, smaller intercooler, and smaller cams.

So maybe a couple thousand can bring you up to par? Who knows.

[AWDrift]

if someones selling a turbo, cam, and intercooler. you probably got:

X turbo: ~$600
X IC: ~$200
X cams: ~$100
tune: ~$300

ralliart guys could spend a little over a grand and probably be matching the X performance wise...in a straight line. idk how much better the X's suspension is.

[Ickubus]

So I'm traking a guess from the pictures that it won't be as wide as the Evo X, some what like the WRX.
Is it lighter the the Evo X?

That would be great if it was.

[DirectorSe7en]

Good lord that sig is huge. Might wanna take it down a few pixels.




So I'm traking a guess from the pictures that it won't be as wide as the Evo X, some what like the WRX.
Is it lighter the the Evo X?


I believe it is about the same wieght as the X. Remember that it has the SST tranny that the X MR has. And yes, the X is much wider then the Ralliart. The Ralliart shares the exact same body as the regular '08 Lancers.

[Ickubus]

Well I'm glad I got my IX.

[MarkSAE]

There's a signature size limit for pictures.. it's 200 pixels high.

[Matz]

I'd take it as a DD over the X and save a few bucks.

[chrisw]

Yea, guess so.

Sucks being the only X fanboy around these here forums....


I'm a fan, but I don't feed the trolls

[Unowned]

Sucks being the only X fanboy around these here forums....


huh how can you leave me out of the X fanboy club :(

[DirectorSe7en]

Oops! Sorry bud.... ;)

So it's me and Matt. 8)

[dload]

question is...... WHY are you guys talking about comparisson of evo x and RA?....there's just no comparrison its the same old EVOLUTION is better...thats why its called an evolution of the lancer....DOHH.....

but i believe that topic compares/votes WRX and RA......not evo vs RA....

now how much would WRX be and 4wd turbo right? compared to RA's fwd NA?

[AWDrift]

they're comparing because the RA is AWD turbo now ;)

duh its not as much of a car as the X. but it doesn't say in the rulebook you can't compare the two. Mitsu put this car out to compete with the WRX, therefore WRX vs. RA.

[TcJayLee]

What I wanna know is why the heck arent they going to put a true manual transmission on the MR! I went by the dealership the other day for an oil change and they said they arent even going to recieve any MR's because the SST or whatever its called cant adapt to the lessened horsepower from the japanese version! I dont get it. I guess by now you guys know I hate paddle shifters. :D

[dload]

so how much would the new wrx be? and the new RA turbo? still is fwd though right?

[SubtleWordplay]

so how much would the new wrx be? and the new RA turbo? still is fwd though right?


I believe it's going to be AWD.

[DirectorSe7en]

The '09 Lancer RA will be Turbo AWD.




I went by the dealership, and they said they arent even going to recieve any MR's because the SST or whatever its called cant adapt to the lessened horsepower from the japanese version!


That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. They clearly know nothing about anything. How they've survived this far, and managed to get a job is beyond anyones comprehension.

[earlyapex aka jack ass]

so how much would the new wrx be? and the new RA turbo? still is fwd though right?


The new RA has the Evo drivetrain and 4B11 turbo motor. AWD with ACD.

[nebolic]

so how much would the new wrx be? and the new RA turbo? still is fwd though right?


The new RA has the Evo drivetrain and 4B11 turbo motor. AWD with ACD.


i think it only has ACD, doesn't have the AYC crap in it (think i read it somewhere) 4B11 detuned motor,and EVO 9 drivetrain.

nebo

[earlyapex aka jack ass]

so how much would the new wrx be? and the new RA turbo? still is fwd though right?


The new RA has the Evo drivetrain and 4B11 turbo motor. AWD with ACD.


i think it only has ACD, doesn't have the AYC crap in it (think i read it somewhere) 4B11 detuned motor,and EVO 9 drivetrain.

nebo



Isn't that what I posted? haha ;)

[nebolic]

so how much would the new wrx be? and the new RA turbo? still is fwd though right?


The new RA has the Evo drivetrain and 4B11 turbo motor. AWD with ACD.


i think it only has ACD, doesn't have the AYC crap in it (think i read it somewhere) 4B11 detuned motor,and EVO 9 drivetrain.

nebo



Isn't that what I posted? haha ;)


could be ;)

nebo

[DirectorSe7en]

:lol:

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[whtrice]

Ok so the UK gets a RS. http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc..._evo_x_rs.html
We the RA. Wonder which one would be the best diamond in the ruff
to mod. Really interested to see if the RA will have any weight advantage. Or would a RS provide a more rigid chasis platform for cornering performance.

[DirectorSe7en]

I personally dont believe we ever will. Unless the Lancer RA tanks, but I highly doubt that.

And since the Lancer RA will have the MR SST Tranny, it'll be as heavy as an Evo with only half the power. You'd have to pour a lot of money into it to get the Evo power.

[whtrice]

I am positive, at least this year, we don't see a RS too. Boosting power out of the 4B11 I do not think will be that cost prohibative. It looks like it is going to respond very well to mods. I doubt it will weigh as much as a MR which will be laden with options. So for the price difference between the two models it should provide for diverting funds for power upgrades. Be fun to see how people will mod their RA's and X EVO's.

[nebolic]

I am positive, at least this year, we don't see a RS too. Boosting power out of the 4B11 I do not think will be that cost prohibative. It looks like it is going to respond very well to mods. I doubt it will weigh as much as a MR which will be laden with options. So for the price difference between the two models it should provide for diverting funds for power upgrades. Be fun to see how people will mod their RA's and X EVO's.


my prediction is that once RA's are more rampant and available, the X will be like the Type R in the heyday where they get stolen for their parts.

but yeah i think if the RA is priced out, it's definetly more bang for the buck vs. the X

nebo

[DirectorSe7en]

Once RA's are more rampant and available, the X will be like the Type R in the heyday where they get stolen for their parts.


God, don't even say that.....That's the last thing I want to have to worry about. :(

[nightwalker]

One of the reasons I bought an Evo and not an STI. No poor wrx owners "shopping" for STI parts in the Mitsu camp.

[AWDrift]

if someones selling a turbo, cam, and intercooler. you probably got:

X turbo: ~$600
X IC: ~$200
X cams: ~$100
tune: ~$300

ralliart guys could spend a little over a grand and probably be matching the X performance wise...in a straight line. idk how much better the X's suspension is.


cbass i guess you missed my post :lol:

[DirectorSe7en]

cbass i guess you missed my post


No, I remember that. ;) But no-one knows if they are interchangable yet.

[EuGeNiLe]

aww what no MT?!? weak, very weak. If they are trying to compete with the WRX, they will need to have an MT as well. All these future ricers/tuners will want to have MT.

[DirectorSe7en]

aww what no MT?!? weak, very weak. If they are trying to compete with the WRX, they will need to have an MT as well. All these future ricers/tuners will want to have MT.

Maybe Mitsu thinks the SST will be the next "big thing" which is why they aren't offering it? And if it fails to catch on, they would offer a 5 Speed MT for the Lancer RA and Evo X MR?

[PANGES]

Get in on the upgraded trans and flywheel business now. I can see the pile of transmissions building as quick as Subie blocks. Bryan you can be the new West coast Shep!!


Paul L is already the West coast Shep. :)


Can you be the Nor Cal Buschur?


Does this mean Bryan is going to start making youtube videos? Tell you quite honestly, I do enjoy watching the dynoflash videos. They're pretty funny

[JDMevoBOOST]

Bryan should make a video and every other word has to be BRo....or maybe Mang...since we are in norcal afterall.

[PANGES]

early morning post whore. :)

[uhoh_evo]

So when is it expected to come out?

[DirectorSe7en]

^Fall of 2008.

[xbox4414]

Insideline just tested the baby Evo!

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=127026?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1 .*

[DirectorSe7en]

Badass find! That deserves it's own thread.

[TcJayLee]

You know, come to think of it, isnt this question an oxymoron? Your asking evo enthusiasts to choose between the X and the STi in an Evo forum? LMAO. Well just to let you know I did vote for the X. hahahahaha

[DoggDicker]

STI...

DD

[DirectorSe7en]

What's wrong with both of you. There is no STI option or an Evo X option........wierdos. :lol:

;)