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JDMevoBOOST
07-11-2008, 05:59 PM
Well I was sitting in the car today and since I have never activated the 2-step in the car I thought I'd see what kind of boost i could build.

Left the car in neutral and revved it up. Should it hit the 2-step out of gear with my foot only on the gas pedal? I revved it to 6K and it felt like there was no limiter so I let off.

Did I not do it right or something?? :(

Do I need to be in gear with my foot on the clutch??? Very confused.

earlyapex aka jack ass
07-11-2008, 06:06 PM
clutch needs to be on the floor, car can't be moving.

I usually set customer vehicles at around 5300-5400

panem
07-11-2008, 06:07 PM
all the way to redline!!!

PANGES
07-11-2008, 06:14 PM
^ +1. Launch at redline!!!!! :D

Personally around 300whp or so, I perfered mine around 6k.

JDMevoBOOST
07-11-2008, 06:27 PM
HAhahahah I'm such a dumb fuck.....I was revving the gas in neutral with the clutch out.......and was like wtf 6K???? ROFLROFLROFLROFL.....

player67
07-11-2008, 06:58 PM
omg

mtsevovii
07-11-2008, 07:18 PM
it needs to be in first gear too...

Positron
07-11-2008, 07:25 PM
+1 to omg to never having done the 2step

Devin@SpeedElement
07-12-2008, 10:21 AM
launch it at 7K like your ITR

Ben
07-12-2008, 10:32 AM
it needs to be in first gear too...


I think you just need to have the clutch in.

mtsevovii
07-12-2008, 10:53 AM
it needs to be in first gear too...


I think you just need to have the clutch in.


Nah Uhh!! :nana:

SavageEvo8
07-12-2008, 11:00 AM
even more noob question.... all the info i tried googling is so generic as far as a description, what is 2-step? is it a tuned feature or a ix specific feature? im sorry for the stupid question, i just wanna learn seeing as its something i never heard of

evo637
07-12-2008, 11:09 AM
even more noob question.... all the info i tried googling is so generic as far as a description, what is 2-step? is it a tuned feature or a ix specific feature? im sorry for the stupid question, i just wanna learn seeing as its something i never heard of


used for launching your car...basically your car builds boost while stationary...kinda like a slingshot to put it another way...

Evo8urv8
07-12-2008, 11:10 AM
even more noob question.... all the info i tried googling is so generic as far as a description, what is 2-step? is it a tuned feature or a ix specific feature? im sorry for the stupid question, i just wanna learn seeing as its something i never heard of


When you have the foot on the clutch you set a lower rev limiter to facilitate launch and build boost (especially for cars like ours) at a standstill. (U don't wanna launch on the track without boost off the line, do u?)

2-step is available STOCK on VIIIs AND IXs @ 5500. (I dunno if it's the same on the X too)

SavageEvo8
07-12-2008, 11:15 AM
im sorry but im not quite following. is this to allow for higher rpm launches, or for higher boost launches? and if its for higher boost launches, how do you build more boost than a typical rev, hold & release type of launch?

Ben
07-12-2008, 11:17 AM
even more noob question.... all the info i tried googling is so generic as far as a description, what is 2-step? is it a tuned feature or a ix specific feature? im sorry for the stupid question, i just wanna learn seeing as its something i never heard of


When you have the foot on the clutch you set a lower rev limiter to facilitate launch and build boost (especially for cars like ours) at a standstill. (U don't wanna launch on the track without boost off the line, do u?)

2-step is available STOCK on VIIIs AND IXs @ 5500. (I dunno if it's the same on the X too)


To further clarify: It's available stock on VIII's and IX's but I don't think '03 - '04 have it activated.

joshesh
07-12-2008, 11:27 AM
im sorry but im not quite following. is this to allow for higher rpm launches, or for higher boost launches? and if its for higher boost launches, how do you build more boost than a typical rev, hold & release type of launch?


All the 2-step is, is a launch rev limiter seperate from the redline rev limiter - it was implemented in the later Evo 8's and all Evo9's. Stock is set to 5000rpm I think, which still gives a decent launch. People with a laptop and ecuflash can mess with that rpm to allow for lower or higher revving launches. I think 5500rpm = a couple lbs of boost, 6k ~10psi - it builds boost from the back pressure it creates by hitting the limiter. Higher rpm = more boost at launch.

Evo8urv8
07-12-2008, 11:47 AM
even more noob question.... all the info i tried googling is so generic as far as a description, what is 2-step? is it a tuned feature or a ix specific feature? im sorry for the stupid question, i just wanna learn seeing as its something i never heard of


When you have the foot on the clutch you set a lower rev limiter to facilitate launch and build boost (especially for cars like ours) at a standstill. (U don't wanna launch on the track without boost off the line, do u?)

2-step is available STOCK on VIIIs AND IXs @ 5500. (I dunno if it's the same on the X too)


To further clarify: It's available stock on VIII's and IX's but I don't think '03 - '04 have it activated.

Awww, that sucks. I thought all VIII's have the 2-step activated already. I know my '05 is.

SavageEvo8
07-12-2008, 12:31 PM
"ah, i see" said the blind man. so it has to be flashed to surpass the 5k limiter

player67
07-12-2008, 12:33 PM
it needs to be in first gear too...


no it doesnt noob

SavageEvo8
07-12-2008, 12:42 PM
it needs to be in first gear too...


no it doesnt noob


but if its not in gear isnt the boost-up kinda pointless?

player67
07-12-2008, 12:48 PM
it needs to be in first gear too...


no it doesnt noob


but if its not in gear isnt the boost-up kinda pointless?


why are you asking me? Ask mitsu hahahahaa :P

player67
07-12-2008, 12:48 PM
but no it does NOT have to be in gear. Or maybe my car is fucked

SavageEvo8
07-12-2008, 12:52 PM
ok... just a little knowledge i was lookin for. im not a launcher but i needed to make sense of the discussion. thanks guys

Positron
07-12-2008, 12:56 PM
Car has to be in first gear and not moving.

player67
07-12-2008, 01:06 PM
Car has to be in first gear and not moving.


omg no it doesnt

joshesh
07-12-2008, 01:16 PM
launch = 1st gear clutch in - car not moving at all... if your lurching forward or back this will not work - flat surface.

Evo8urv8
07-12-2008, 01:26 PM
There's no point of doing the 2-step to launch it if it's not in 1st gear.

SavageEvo8
07-12-2008, 01:26 PM
There's no point of doing the 2-step to launch it if it's not in 1st gear.


thats what i was thinking :?

mtsevovii
07-12-2008, 03:04 PM
Car has to be in first gear and not moving.


omg no it doesnt


just because your cars f*ked doesnt mean everyone else is... :lol:

and what the hell is the point of holding down the clutch if your reving in neutral... n00b

dabaysevo
07-13-2008, 08:17 AM
It's okay Dara is a ricer.

The 2-Step limiter was never meant for aiding in launching the car. It was meant to protect the front diff/T-case on the 05 and up evos since they went from an open diff to the LSD front starting in 05. The fact that if done right it actually helps launch the car is a nice feature.

06IXMR
07-13-2008, 10:34 AM
clutch in reving to 5k in neutral ftw!!

cornercarver
07-13-2008, 11:05 AM
I launch fine without s 2 step and boost off the line. It's probably the only reason my stock clutch is holding up :lol:.
1.7-1.8sec 60' I hold at 5200 rpm.

mrevo8
07-13-2008, 11:33 AM
so the 05's evo had the 2 step in it?

player67
07-13-2008, 11:47 AM
^Yes


To the noobs that say theres no point in launching when not in 1st....GOOD OBSERVATIONS dumbass. I am saying, it is possible to hit the limiter in neutral.

In response to you Dave, I love you.

joshesh
07-13-2008, 11:48 AM
^yup, they actually all have 2-step but only 05 and up made use of it in the ecu map.

cornercarver
07-13-2008, 11:51 AM
^yup, they actually all have 2-step but only 05 and up made use of it in the ecu map.


Ahh I did not know that, learn something new evr'day.

earlyapex aka jack ass
07-13-2008, 04:18 PM
05-06 have the launch rev-limiter set at 5000 from the factory.

03-04 have the launch rev-limiter set at 7969 from the factory.

Obviously the 03-04's will never hit the launch limiter as the rev limiter will be hit first at 7606.

So all Evo 8's and 9's have the launch rev-limiter, the 03-04's just need the code to be changed so you can use it. :)

joshesh
07-13-2008, 04:35 PM
^Bryan... I could have dug all those #'s up but I'd rather wait for you to do it. Hopefully this ends the discussion about the 2-step.

player67
07-14-2008, 03:54 PM
yeah, 2 step can happen in neutral, end of story. Fuck you all <3

JDMevoBOOST
07-15-2008, 11:17 AM
That's exactly what I want it for dude....neutral mang!!

You know those assholes with the eyelash curlers at a red light....my horn is too weak sauce....I need to 2-step these bitches and shoot some fucking flames so they move their ass through the intersection.

joshesh
07-15-2008, 11:30 AM
^WTF, you got M2 cams and only gained 5wtq but lost 12whp???

Positron
07-15-2008, 11:32 AM
Just sell me those cams, I will put them to good use

dabaysevo
07-15-2008, 11:33 AM
Ken's evo is a dud just like the owner. :P

dabaysevo
07-15-2008, 11:33 AM
Just sell me those cams, I will put them to good use


Chopsticks? I like your thinking.

Positron
07-15-2008, 11:34 AM
Just sell me those cams, I will put them to good use


Chopsticks? I like your thinking.


^_^

JDMevoBOOST
07-15-2008, 07:08 PM
Made power under 6K, lost it above 6K. Sigh....comparing numbers across a few months is hard to interpret....so many variables....but im trying to return the car as much back to the way it was before I decide on yanking the cams.

chrisw
07-15-2008, 07:25 PM
Made power under 6K, lost it above 6K. Sigh....comparing numbers across a few months is hard to interpret....so many variables....but im trying to return the car as much back to the way it was before I decide on yanking the cams.


it's has to be something other than the cams. I made a little more than that with a TME turbo, Cosie M2's, stock evo9 CAT, on a fresh rebuilt motor..

Ben
07-18-2008, 10:46 PM
Car has to be in first gear and not moving.


omg no it doesnt


+1. I know because I was dicking around with some friends one night and realized I was hitting the launch control rev limit in neutral.

Oh and I don't think mine builds boost...is my car retarded?

joshesh
07-19-2008, 07:41 AM
^you probably dont notice it building boost, or you might need to raise the 2-step to about 5.5-6k and you will build more boost as the engine bounces off the revs.

Come out to the sj meet next wednesday and I can tweak the rev limiter for you if you want.

steevo8
07-19-2008, 08:26 AM
Im a poser so I actually set the limiter at 4800 on my street map cause I like to bounce it of the two step all the time cause it sounds cool :lol: I build about 4-6psi at 4800.. Last time I drag raced though I was launching at 5800 and building about 12psi. Tried 6000 which made about 15psi and just spun real bad.

joshesh
07-19-2008, 08:31 AM
^haha, mine is set at 4500 because I suck at launching and I dont like to smell clutch that much after a botched attempt.

dsmdeliverybo
07-22-2008, 09:24 PM
Hahaha is there really a correct way to launch?? I dont think so haha, I know buschur made a perfect launch system

Ben
07-28-2008, 03:27 AM
^you probably dont notice it building boost, or you might need to raise the 2-step to about 5.5-6k and you will build more boost as the engine bounces off the revs.

Come out to the sj meet next wednesday and I can tweak the rev limiter for you if you want.


Eh I never use it unless I'm dicking around but I like my stock clutch to last a little longer :)

earlyapex aka jack ass
07-28-2008, 01:44 PM
It will only build boost if you are WOT on the "2-step"

player67
07-29-2008, 01:23 PM
Hahaha is there really a correct way to launch?? I dont think so haha, I know buschur made a perfect launch system


are you serious??? hahahahahahaa omg And that buschur launch system is so stupid