Another shoot at work place..

[lncrevoviii]

Messing around with the camera and the picture editor. Its weird how the pictures look so good in the picture editor and as soon as, you load em on Photobucket they look crap. Specially, the sharpening part. Too etchy.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/lncrevoviii/Buncha%20Junk/DSC_0005.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/lncrevoviii/Buncha%20Junk/DSC_0007.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/lncrevoviii/Buncha%20Junk/DSC_0008.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/lncrevoviii/Buncha%20Junk/DSC_0009.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/lncrevoviii/Buncha%20Junk/DSC_0010.jpg

I believe its hand painted or something on 3 pieces of picket fense wood which is about 2' in Height and 3 1/2' in width. Details on it are crazy.

[steevo8]

oh wow man your shooting with your iso at 3200 :shock: imo if you have to shoot that high of iso its not worth shooting..
photobucket does suck arse bug time but what will help is to not go much past 600pixel width or height and if your editing program has a "save for web" function save using that as well instead of "save" or "save as"

Exif Properties

Color Space 1
Contrast 0
Custom Rendered 1
Date Time Digitized 2008:07:24 21:01:37
Date Time Original 2008:07:24 21:01:38
Digital Zoom Ratio 1
Exif Version 2.2.1
Exposure Bias Value 0
Exposure Mode 0
Exposure Program 0
Exposure Time 0.01
Flash 16
FlashPix Version 1.0
FNumber 5
Focal Length 18
Focal Length In 35mm Film 27
Gain Control 2
ISO Speed Ratings 3200
Light Source 0
Max Aperture Value 3.6
Metering Mode 5
Pixel X Dimension 1972
Pixel Y Dimension 1486

[BOOSTonHanD]

I couldn't disagree with you more.. Of course IS0 3200 is really high, but you can use noise software that can maybe help your photo if you use it properly.. Try and set up a flickr account, thier is almost no compression, so your photos will look like before you uploaded them to photobucket..

[lncrevoviii]

Man, how do you guys know all of this stuff?

Noise software?

No Compression?

ISO 3200?

How do these effect an image? Does it make it look crappy? If you guys can adjust one of the images to your specs and post it so I can see the difference.

I just stepped into the realm of photography and I consider my status lower than a noob.

[steevo8]

for the most part the only difference between a film camera and a digital camera is that one uses film and the other uses a digital sensor that replicates what the film would be doing in a traditional camera... ISO is the sensativity to light. Lower=better. I shoot 98% of everything at iso 100, and never shoot over about 600. The higher the iso, the more noise(speckles) you'll get. You should really just get on a photography forum and read as much as you can in the faq section.. There's really too much to explain to you in a few pm's or posts but here's where to start.

What is a "slr" and how does it work
Aperture(<-spelling :?) and how it works
Shutter speed
Exposure
Focus points
Depth of field

It can get pretty complicated at times, but if it was east pretty much everyone would be doing it.

[BOOSTonHanD]

Photography explained:
http://web.canon.jp/imaging/enjoydslr/index.html

[Sfkn2]

Photography explained:
http://web.canon.jp/imaging/enjoydslr/index.html


Wow, nice link. There's a lot of information there.

[lncrevoviii]

awesome, thanks for the info.

my bad for bugging you guys with my fucked up pictures. But hey gotta start somewhere.

[steevo8]

no problem man.. Just start reading and shooting as much as possible. I take my camera just about everywhere with me and if I think that there's a possibilty that somethink will look good in a picture, shoot it at every angle every position and every setting you think might turn out well. You'll be suprised what looks good once it's on your monitor. When I got my first camera, I would only like/keep about 1 out of every 300-400 shots or more. Now that I have a better understanding of things I can get almost anything to turn out decent.. That's not to say the pic is good, but at least it turns out veiwable instead of hazy or blown out whites all over the place.

Check out my gallery on myspace if you get a sec as well. search slarmanphotography

[lncrevoviii]

gotcha steve.

[RgistRdShowoffIX]

I hear noise isn't so bad if you go to print and the size is maybe 8x11. If you're viewing on your computer it's more apparent.

Noise is just a by-product of a function that's intended to make your life easier in low-light so for your shots you didn't need to be that high of an ISO. The higher the ISO the more grain you get in your photos. It also degrades the sharpness. If you correct too much noise you end up with soft looking edges.

ISO 100 => generally well lit rooms and bright days
IS0 800 => ok lit rooms
ISO 3200 => damn are you in a cave? :lol:

http://ixthevil.smugmug.com/photos/259766621_9UsNS-XL.jpg
ISO 1000

The performance was dark overall so 1000 was good enough to cover for all the performances (i'm forgetful so I choose an in-between for the event I shoot. :lol: )

[BOOSTonHanD]

High ISO examples:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3099/2559576680_5bb916074e_b.jpg

Exposure: 0.013 sec (1/80)
Aperture: f/1.4
Focal Length: 35 mm
ISO Speed: 1600
Converted from RAW and sharpened a little..


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3113/2558773347_21eb2519b3_b.jpg

Exposure: 0.003 sec (1/320)
Aperture: f/1.8
Focal Length: 35 mm
ISO Speed: 1600
Converted from RAW and sharpened a little..


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3035/2558693039_9b64fdabe1_b.jpg

Exposure: 0.013 sec (1/80)
Aperture: f/1.8
Focal Length: 35 mm
ISO Speed: 1000
Converted from RAW and sharpened a little..

[RgistRdShowoffIX]

lol you and your full frame sensor. :P

[BOOSTonHanD]

I know camera's like the 20D and 30D will produce more noise, but with some more PP work you can produce some real keepers. The worst thing you can do is shot a lower ISO then needed and try to recover the picture in Photoshop. Trying to recover a dark picture and over sharpening will produce even more unwanted noise.

[steevo8]

My 20d produces a lot less noise then a friends D200.. Thats the main thing that kept me from buying a nikon.. Less money and less noise.