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Pure EvoIX
08-22-2008, 12:52 PM
Im currently using a mount that attaches to the rear child seat attachment point (the middle one). Most of the videos are coming out perfectly stable, but its shitty because you cant see the whole track and it just sits too far back. It looks like the speeds are 30mph slower. Although it allows you to see the driver's steering and shifting.

Im thinking of going with another setup. Is it legal to have a in-car windshield camera mount during HPDE? Does the rules vary by group and if you know which group allows or doesnt allow, please share? I do not want harness bar and do a camera mount for that. I just bought a cg lock so it should suffice.

FilmTools Gripper 115 $100.34 otd
http://www.filmtools.com/filmtools-in-car-windshield-camera-mount.html

and a .45x wide angle lens $56 otd

Havent bought them yet. Verdict Yes? No? Thanks for your help.

turboevo8
08-22-2008, 01:38 PM
That's pretty cool. Let us know how it comes out if you get it.

Pure EvoIX
08-22-2008, 03:34 PM
If i hear a bunch of "yes" responses then ill get it. Where are the track whores? Need your opinions :)

awdaddict
08-22-2008, 03:59 PM
Last time I checked, they won't allow something that is suction cup or goes on the window.

mtsevovii
08-22-2008, 05:17 PM
Last time I checked, they won't allow something that is suction cup or goes on the window.


+1

needs to be secured/fixed, and have a secured strap as a secondary.

Pure EvoIX
08-22-2008, 06:29 PM
that mount can hold 50lbs and its a not a regular suction cup. Its a vacuum cup as described in the link. Hmm, this sucks. I guess I cant argue with that. Anyone else has a better idea? Btw how are the bullet cameras legal if it is mounted on a suction cup (bumper,hood). Should i just keep my original mount and live with the crappy view?

thefrush
08-22-2008, 06:36 PM
I would skip that above model and roll one of the ChaseCam suction mounts. Cheaper and much more proven. ChaseCam has a lot of representation in the motorsports community.

http://www.chasecam.com/catalog/12/suction_mounts

I use the Ultra Mount, and I have used it in NASA before inside my windshield, without them saying anything. Though I think their rules do state that it must be a secured mount. I have put my Ultra Mount on the outside of my car for both track days and twisty roads and never had an issue with it.

The GoPro Camera is gaining a lot of popularity at track days as well. I may pick one up to get an extra vantage point for events. I see people use them as footwell cameras, rear views, close to ground, etc. The GoPro gives you a lot of flexibility. I have seen them used at NASA events in race groups and HPDE.

http://www.goprocamera.com/

awdaddict
08-22-2008, 06:46 PM
I do have suction cups to mount stuff... letme kno if u wanna try it out at NASA =P

Pure EvoIX
08-22-2008, 06:54 PM
the suction mount idea for the chase cam, isnt that theoretically the same idea i proposed and still not legal for HPDE. Chasecam systems for a camera and recorder is like 875. http://www.chasecam.com/node/116
I mean if both uses suction cup, wont it be cheaper to just do what i said in first post since they allow the chasecam on the front windshield.

or i can do this :) :)
TraqCam Complete Video & Data System.
http://traqmate1.ipower.com/ecommerce/os/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=91&osCsid=990eabb738dba9b31453ce06ef54729e

Pure EvoIX
08-22-2008, 06:57 PM
my next event would probably be during the hypermeet weekend. Ill let you know if i dont have anything by then. Thanks Rob.

thefrush
08-22-2008, 07:34 PM
the suction mount idea for the chase cam, isnt that theoretically the same idea i proposed and still not legal for HPDE. Chasecam systems for a camera and recorder is like 875. http://www.chasecam.com/node/116
I mean if both uses suction cup, wont it be cheaper to just do what i said in first post since they allow the chasecam on the front windshield.

As I said in my post, yes it is generally the same idea, only a more proven product, for less money, and as I said yes it is outside of the rules but like I said I've used it before without NASA saying anything.

Also, if you're gonna use it at Hypermeet, that isn't a NASA event, I think Wilson would probably be alright with you using one.

Pure EvoIX
08-22-2008, 08:00 PM
ok, thanks for clearing that up. I wouldnt say it costs less money. $875 vs $156. Obviously without a doubt its a more advanced, robust, well known, proven, and better overall system. All im saying is if it does the same function, $156 option is good enough. Im not made out of money, lol.

So 1 says NASA doesnt care or doesnt object. Dave and Rob says some clubs require it to be secured and wont allow it.

thefrush
08-22-2008, 08:02 PM
The suction cup mounts I linked you to are all under $100. The Ultra Mount that I have was $78.

You already have a camera right? Then one of these is all you need.

http://www.chasecam.com/catalog/12/suction_mounts

Pure EvoIX
08-22-2008, 08:05 PM
ooooooo I thought you wanted me to look in to the chasecam system.. Sorry, sorry. Totally agree then, much cheaper than the one i listed :) :) my apologies.

turboevo8
08-22-2008, 11:28 PM
The chase cam stuff and Goprocamera is pretty cool! I can see a lot of uses for them. I just applied to be a dealer so I can sell it in my helmet store. Thanks for the great finds.

dohcvtec
08-27-2008, 03:54 AM
Suction cup mount is fine, as long as you tether it to something else fixed on the car. I used my suction cup mount for years with no problems. Then I got a roll cage and got a new mount. :)

JDMevoBOOST
09-04-2008, 11:25 AM
In the race car I have an IOport Racing mount that attaches to the roll bar. It is a great piece and it hold super steady. Very easy to use and adjust beacuse I can just loosen it and slide it up the diagonal cross brace.

stupidevo
11-03-2008, 11:51 AM
GoPro, cheap, easy, youtube quality. Only con is sound, and NASA won't let you mount it outside the car w/o bunch of zipties