I got no game.....=[

[GsxEcutioner]

Ok guys, I am just trying to figure out whats wrong with me. I can't seem to find a girl that likes me for me or anything like that. I am 20. have no game to save my life. Im more of the "Nice Guy". What to do, What to do........... :(

[sprytsi]

stop trying so hard

[mtsevovii]

stop trying so hard


+1

i used to be the "nice guy" girls dont go for it. its a sign that youre desperate and weak.

[ChuckP]

Where are you meeting these girls that think of you as a "nice guy"?

[mtsevovii]

Where are you meeting these girls that think of you as a "nice guy"?


gauging from his age,

high school/college?

[GsxEcutioner]

^^^ school, work, through other friends........

[slimdatwelve209]

hit the club yet?

[ChuckP]

Dont worry about it bro, your time will come. And IMO the clubs and bars arn't the best place to look for a girlfriend. I like meeting/flirting with girls at my gym. Best place IMO to find a girl. But girls aren't worth stressing over, period.

[wzcx]

Well, this might not make you feel a lot better but...
I'm a nice guy too. (If I were dabaysevo, this is where i hit on you.) I didn't ever really get "game" as I can't play the games that seem to be the norm in the dating/party scene. But now fifteen years of being a nice guy is paying off: I have a bunch of friends who are girls, and they are all about the matchmaking now that I'm over thirty. (This weekend was spent with a friends ex gf partying at a penthouse in SF.)

So my advice: Keep it up, you'll start getting laid in ten years for sure!
(I have more advice, will make another post.)

[wzcx]

Sorry for pasting this whole thing, but I lost the source.

FLIRTING: HOW TO DO IT

1. DO initiate flirtation with people of roughly the same level of attractiveness as yourself.

This will give you the best chance of compatability. Most successful marriages and long-term relationships are between partners of more or less equal good looks. There is some leeway, of course, and other qualities are also important, but statistically, relationships where one partner is much more attractive than the other tend to be less successful. Studies have shown that the more evenly matched partners are in their attractiveness, the more likely they are to stay together.

But evaluating your own attractiveness may be difficult. Research has shown that many women have a poor body-image, and often underestimate their attractiveness. Some recent studies indicate, for example, that up to 80% of adult women believe that they are too fat, and try to achieve a figure that is around two sizes smaller than the body-size men find most desirable. If you are female, the odds are that you are more attractive than you think, so try flirting with some better-looking men.

Men generally tend to be less critical of their own physical appearance than women. This is partly because standards of beauty for males are much less rigid than for females, and a wider variety of shapes and features are considered attractive. But it must be said that some men are also inclined to overestimate their attractiveness. If you are a more honest male, and do not consider yourself good-looking, remember that most men lack expertise in the subtleties of social interaction, so polishing up your flirting skills could give you the edge over a more attractive rival.

2. Don't flirt with people who are unlikely to return your interest.

Even if you are not looking for a long-term mate, you will enjoy flirting more with someone who is interested in you. So it makes sense to approach people who are likely to see you as at least a possible partner, rather than those likely to dismiss you as unsuitable.

Evolution has favoured males who select young, attractive mates and females who select partners with power, wealth and status. Men therefore naturally tend to seek women who are younger than them and place greater emphasis on physical beauty, while women are more likely to favour older males with higher status and earning potential. Women also tend to prefer men who are taller than them. Analysis of thousands of personal ads – where people are more explicit about their requirements, and more obviously conscious of the requirements of others – shows that these are the qualities most frequently demanded and offered by mate-seekers.

Short, low-status males and older, less attractive females may therefore be a bit more restricted in their choice of potential partners, although there are many exceptions to this rule, and confidence and charm can outweigh apparent disadvantages.

In the How to Flirt section, you will find tips on how to tell immediately, even from across a crowded room, whether someone is likely to return your interest or not.
How to flirt

The first key to successful flirting is not an ability to show off and impress, but the knack of conveying that you like someone. If your 'target' knows that you find him or her interesting and attractive, he or she will be more inclined to like you.

Although this simple fact has been demonstrated in countless studies and experiments, you don't really need scientists to prove it. You already know that when you are told someone fancies you, or hear that someone has praised or admired you, your interest in that person automatically increases – even if it is someone you have never met!

Conveying that you like someone, and judging whether or not the attraction is mutual, clearly involves a combination of verbal and non-verbal communication skills.

When asked about flirting, most people – particularly men – focus on the verbal element: the 'chatting-up', the problems of knowing what to say, finding the right words, etc. In fact, the non-verbal element – body-language, tone of voice, etc. – is much more important, particularly in the initial stages of a flirtation.

When you first meet new people, their initial impression of you will be based 55% on your appearance and body-language, 38% on your style of speaking and only 7% on what you actually say.

Also, their non-verbal signals will tell you much more about their feelings towards you than the words they use. We show attitudes such as liking and disliking not by what we say but by the way we say it and the posture, gestures and expressions that accompany our speech.

The customary polite greeting "pleased to meet you", for example, can convey anything from 'I find you really attractive' to 'I am not the slightest bit interested in you', depending on the tone of voice, facial expression, position and posture of the speaker.
Non-verbal flirting

When a man and a woman meet for the first time, both are in a difficult, ambiguous and potentially risky situation. Neither person knows what the other's intentions and feelings are. Because stating intentions and feelings verbally involves a high risk of embarrassment or possible rejection, non-verbal behaviour becomes the main channel of communication. Unlike the spoken word, body language can signal invitation, acceptance or refusal without being too obvious, without causing offence or making binding commitments.

Warning: some of the non-verbal flirting techniques outlined in this section are very powerful signals, and should be used with caution. Women should be particularly careful when using signals of interest and attraction. Men already tend to mistake friendliness for flirting; if your signals of interest are too direct and obvious, they will mistake them for sexual availability.

[wzcx]

Eye contact

Your eyes are probably your most important flirting tool. We tend to think of our eyes mainly as a means of receiving information, but they are also extremely high-powered transmitters of vital social signals. How you look at another person, meet his or her gaze and look away can make all the difference between a successful, enjoyable flirtation and an embarrassing or hurtful encounter.

Eye contact – looking directly into the eyes of another person – is such a powerful, emotionally loaded act of communication that we normally restrict it to very brief glances. Prolonged eye contact between two people indicates intense emotion, and is either an act of love or an act of hostility. It is so disturbing that in normal social encounters, we avoid eye contacts of more than one second. Among a crowd of strangers in a public setting, eye contacts will generally last only a fraction of second, and most people will avoid making any eye contact at all.

This is very good news for anyone wishing to initiate a flirtation with an attractive stranger. Even from across a crowded room at a party, you can signal your interest in someone merely by making eye contact and attempting to hold your target's gaze for more than one second (not too much more, though, or you will seem threatening). If your target maintains eye contact with you for more than one second, the chances are that he/she might return your interest. If after this initial contact, your target looks away briefly and then looks back to meet your gaze a second time, you can safely assume that he/she is interested. If these eye contacts trigger a smile, you can approach your target with some confidence.

If, on the other hand, your target avoids making eye contact with you, or looks away after a fraction of a second and does not look back again, you should probably assume that your interest is not returned. There is still the possibility that your target is just a very shy person – and some females may be understandably wary of signalling any interest in male strangers. The only way to find out is by close observation of your target's behaviour towards others. Does she consistently avoid direct eye-contact with men? Does he seem nervous, anxious or aloof in his interactions with other women? If so, your target's reluctance to meet your gaze may be nothing personal, and it might be worth approaching, but only with considerable caution.

Once you have approached your target, you will need to make eye contact again in order to strike up a conversation. As soon as your eyes meet, you may begin to speak. Once a conversation begins, it is normal for eye contact to be broken as the speaker looks away. In conversations, the person who is speaking looks away more than the person who is listening, and turn-taking is governed by a characteristic pattern of looking, eye contact and looking away.

So, to signal that you have finished speaking and invite a response, you then look back at your target again. To show interest while your target is speaking, you need to look at his/her face about three-quarters of the time, in glances lasting between one and seven seconds. The person speaking will normally look at you for less than half this time, and direct eye contact will be intermittent, rarely lasting more than one second. When your target has finished speaking, and expects a response, he or she will look at you and make brief eye contact again to indicate that it is your turn.

The basic rules for pleasant conversation are: glance at the other person's face more when you are listening, glance away more when you are speaking and make brief eye contact to initiate turn-taking. The key words here are 'glance' and 'brief': avoid prolonged staring either at the other person or away.

The most common mistake people make when flirting is to overdo the eye contact in a premature attempt to increase intimacy. This only makes the other person feel uncomfortable, and may send misleading signals. Some men also blow their chances by carrying on a conversation with a woman's breasts, rather than looking at her face.

[wzcx]

Interpersonal distance

The distance you keep from the other person when flirting is important, because it will affect his or her impression of you, and the quality of your interaction. Perhaps even more importantly, paying attention to the other person's use of distance will tell you a great deal about his/her reactions and feelings towards you.

When you first approach an attractive stranger, having established at least an indication of mutual interest through eye contact, try to make eye contact again at about 4ft away, before moving any closer. At 4 ft (about two small steps away), you are on the borderline between what are known as the 'social zone' (4 to 12 ft) and the 'personal zone' (18in to 4ft).

If you receive a positive response at 4ft, move in to 'arm's length' (about 2ft 6in). If you try to approach much closer than this, particularly if you try to cross the 18in 'personal zone/intimate zone' border, your target may feel uncomfortable. The 'intimate zone' (less than 18in) is reserved for lovers, family and very close friends. If you are close enough to whisper and be heard, you are probably too close for comfort.

These distance rules apply particularly in face-to-face encounters. We will tolerate reduced interpersonal distances when we are side by side with someone. This is because when you are alongside someone, it is easier to use other aspects of body language, such as turning away or avoiding eye contact, to 'limit' your level of involvement with the other person.

You can therefore approach a bit closer than 'arm's length' if you are alongside your target – at the bar counter of a pub, for example – rather than face-to-face. But be careful to avoid 'intrusive' body-language such as prolonged eye contact or touching.

If you have misjudged the appropriate distance, in either a face-to-face or side-by-side encounter, the other person's discomfort may show in his/her body language. Your target may attempt to turn away or avert his/her gaze to avoid eye contact. You may also see 'barrier signals' such as folded or tightly crossed legs, or rubbing the neck with the elbow pointed towards you. If you see any of these signs, back off!

Finally, remember that different people have different reactions to distance. If your target is from a Mediterranean or Latin American country (known as the 'contact cultures'), he or she may be comfortable with closer distances than a British or Northern European person. North Americans fall somewhere between these two extremes. Different personality-types may also react differently to your approach: extroverts and those who generally feel at ease in company will be comfortable with closer distances than introverts and shy or nervous types. Even the same person may vary in tolerance from day to day, according to mood: when we are feeling depressed or irritable, we find close distances more uncomfortable.

Posture

Most of us are quite good at controlling our faces – maintaining an expression of polite interest, for example, when we are really bored to tears, or even nodding when we really disagree! But we tend to be less conscious of what the rest of our body is doing. We may be smiling and nodding, but unconsciously revealing our disagreement by a tense posture with tightly folded arms. This is known as 'non-verbal leakage': while we're busy controlling our words and faces, our real feelings 'leak out' in our posture.

When flirting, you should therefore watch out for signs of this 'non-verbal leakage' in your partner's posture – and try to send the right signals with your own posture.

Your partner's 'non-verbal leakage' can give you advance warning that your chat-up isn't working. If only his/her head is turned towards you, with the rest of the body oriented in another direction, this is a sign that you do not have your partner's full attention. Even just the feet starting to turn and 'point' away from you can be a sign that his/her attention is directed elsewhere, or that he/she is thinking about moving away. Leaning backwards and supporting the head on one hand are signs of boredom. 'Closed' postures with arms folded and legs tightly crossed indicate disagreement or dislike.

More positive signs to watch out for would be a partner's body oriented towards you, particularly if he/she is also leaning forward, and an 'open' posture. These are signs of attentiveness and interest or liking. Experiments have also shown that females are more likely to tilt their heads to one side when they are interested in the person they are talking to. Men should beware, however, of automatically assuming that these signs indicate sexual interest. Women should be aware of men's tendency to make such assumptions, and avoid signalling interest too obviously.

Another positive sign is what psychologists call 'postural congruence' or 'postural echo': when your partner unconsciously adopts a posture similar to yours. Mirror-image postural echoes – where one person's left side 'matches' the other person's right side – are the strongest indication of harmony and rapport between the pair. If the position of your partner's body and limbs appear to 'echo' or 'mimic' your own, particularly if his/her posture is a mirror image of yours, the chances are that he/she feels an affinity with you.

When flirting, you can also use postural echo to create a feeling of togetherness and harmony. Experiments have shown that although people are not consciously aware of someone deliberately 'echoing' their postures, they will evaluate a person who does this more favourably. If you 'echo' your partner's postures, he/she will not only feel more at ease in your company, but will perceive you as more like-minded.

This technique obviously has its limits. We would not suggest, for example, that a woman in a mini-skirt should 'echo' the open-legged sitting posture of her male companion. But if he is leaning forward with his left forearm resting on the table, she could create a sense of common identity by 'mirroring' this aspect of his posture – leaning forward with her right forearm on the table.

In addition to these 'generic' signals of interest, there are specifically male and female posture signals which are often seen in flirtatious encounters. These tend to be postures which enhance the masculine or dominant appearance of the male, and the femininity of the female. Males may adopt postures which make them appear taller, larger and more impressive, such as placing hands in pockets with elbows out to enlarge the chest, or leaning one hand at above shoulder height on a wall to appear taller and more imposing. Females either adopt postures which make them look smaller, such as drawing the knees towards the body when seated, or postures which draw attention to physical attributes attractive to males, such as arching the back to display the breasts, or crossing and re-crossing the legs to draw attention to them.

Gestures

As well as overall body posture, the gestures we use can signal interest, attraction and invitation – or discomfort, dislike and rejection.

When flirting, it is important to be aware of these non-verbal cues, both in 'reading' your partner's body-language and in controlling the messages you are sending with your own gestures.

In conversation, gestures are mainly used to enliven, clarify and 'punctuate' our speech, or to show responsiveness to what the other person is saying. In a flirtatious encounter, the amount of gesticulation, the directions of the gestures and the co-ordination of gestures can indicate the degree of interest and involvement your partner feels towards you.

Different cultures vary widely in the amount of gesticulation that accompanies their speech (Italians say that you can silence an Italian by tying his hands behind his back), and even within a single culture, some people naturally express themselves more through gestures than others. Generally, however, someone who is interested in you will be more lively and animated in conversation, using more gestures when speaking in order to keep your attention, and more responsive gestures to show interest when you are speaking.

Similarly, you can signal interest in your partner, and keep his/her attention focused on you, by enhancing your speech with appropriate gestures: shifting your hands or head slightly at the end of sentences, using downward hand movements to emphasise a point, 'projecting' what you are saying towards your partner by open-palm hand movements and so on. When your partner is speaking, you can show responsiveness by nodding in agreement, throwing up your hands in surprise, bringing them together in a 'silent clap' of appreciation, etc.

Researchers have found that nodding can be used to 'regulate' conversations. If you make single, brief nods while your partner is speaking, these act as simple signs of attentiveness, which will maintain the flow of communication from the speaker. Double nods will change the rate at which the other person speaks, usually speeding up the flow, while triple nods or single, slow nods often interrupt the flow altogether, confusing speakers so much that they stop in their tracks. So, if you want to express interest and keep your partner chatting with you, stick to brief single nods.

You can also watch for gestures which indicate anxiety and nervousness, such as hand-clasping movements and palm-rubbing. As a general rule, anxious gestures are directed towards the anxious person's own body (known as 'proximal' movements), while 'distal' movements, directed away from the body, are a sign of confidence. As well as watching for these signals in your partner, you can control the impression you are making by using more confident, 'distal' gestures.

As with posture, the greatest involvement and harmony is achieved when gestures are synchronised – when the movements of one person are echoed or reflected by the other. You may have noticed that this tends to happen naturally between people who like each other and get on well together. Watch pairs of lovers in a bar or pub, and you will see that they often tend to lift their drinks and take a sip at the same time, and that many of their other body movements and gestures will be similarly synchronised. Psychologists call this 'interactional synchrony' or 'gestural dance', and some of their research findings indicate that the timing of matched gestures may be accurate down to fractions of a second.

Although this synchronisation normally happens without conscious effort, you can use it as a highly effective flirting technique. If you feel the conversation is not flowing easily, or you and partner seem awkward and uncomfortable with each other, try to be more sensitive to the patterns of his/her gestures and body movements, and to reflect these in your own body language.

If your partner spontaneously begins to synchronise his/her body language with yours, this is a sign that he/she feels comfortable with you. Men should not assume that it necessarily indicates sexual interest, however. Women can avoid creating this impression by reducing synchronisation, adopting a more 'closed' posture and avoiding the use of gestures which are specifically associated with flirtatious behaviour. In experiments, female hair-flipping and head-tossing were among the (non-contact) gestures most often regarded as sexually flirtatious, along with repeated leg-crossing and movements designed to draw attention to the breasts.

[mtsevovii]

So my advice: Keep it up, you'll start getting laid in ten years for sure!
(I have more advice, will make another post.)


but he wants to get laid now! :lol:

[wzcx]

Facial expression

An ability to 'read' and interpret the facial expressions of your partner will improve your chances of successful flirting, as will awareness of what you are signalling with your own expressions.

Some expressions can be effective even from a distance, as in the 'across a crowded room' encounter with a stranger. The 'eyebrow-flash', for example, which involves raising the eyebrows very briefly – for about one-sixth of a second – is used almost universally as a long-distance greeting signal. When you see someone you know, but are not near enough to speak, the eyebrow-flash shows that you have noticed and recognised them.

We all use this non-verbal "Hello!" in situations where we cannot use the verbal equivalent, either because of distance or social convention. Watch a video of Andrew and Fergie's wedding, for example, and you will see that Fergie performs frequent eyebrow-flashes as she walks down the aisle. Social etiquette does not allow a bride to call out cheery greetings to her friends and relations during the ceremony, but the highly sociable Fergie is clearly unable to refrain from signalling the same greetings with her eyebrows.

If you are desperate to attract the attention of an attractive stranger across a crowded party, you could try an eyebrow-flash. This should make your target think that you must be a friend or acquaintance, even though he or she does not recognise you. When you approach, your target may thus already be wondering who you are. You can, if you are skilful, use this confusion to initiate a lively discussion about where you might have met before. Such conversations inevitably centre on possible shared interests or friends or habits, and invariably involve mutual disclosure of at least some personal information. As you will learn from the 'Verbal flirting' sections of this Guide, these are essential ingredients of successful flirting. So, assuming your target finds you attractive, an eyebrow-flash with appropriate follow-up could leapfrog you into instant intimacy.

Two warnings are necessary here: 1) If your target does not find you attractive, the eyebrow-flash strategy may backfire, as the confusion over whether or not you already know each other will be experienced as unpleasant and annoying, rather than amusing. 2) Do not use the eyebrow-flash in Japan, where it has definite sexual connotations and is therefore never used as a greeting signal.

If your target is attracted to you, this may be more evident in facial expressions than in words. Studies have found that women are generally better than men at reading these expressions, but that both sexes have equal difficulty in seeing through people's expressions when they are controlling their faces to hide their real feelings.

The problem is that although faces do express genuine feelings, any facial expression that occurs naturally can also be produced artificially for a social purpose. Smiles and frowns, to take the most obvious examples, can be spontaneous expressions of happiness or anger, but they can also be manufactured as deliberate signals, such as frowning to indicate doubt or displeasure, smiling to signal approval or agreement, etc. Feelings can also be hidden under a 'social' smile, a 'stiff upper lip' or a blank, 'inscrutable' expression.

Despite this potential for 'deceit', we rely more on facial expressions than on any other aspect of body language. In conversation, we watch our companions' faces rather than their hands or feet, and rely on their facial signals to tell us what effect we are having, and how to interpret what they say. Although people are better at controlling their facial expressions than other aspects of body language, there is still some 'leakage', and the following clues will help you to detect insincerity.

Let's say your target smiles at you. How do you know whether this smile is spontaneous or manufactured? There are four ways of telling the difference. First, spontaneous smiles produce characteristic wrinkles around the eyes, which will not appear if your target is 'forcing' a smile out of politeness. Second, 'forced' or 'social' smiles tend to be asymmetrical (stronger on the left side of the face in right-handed people and on the right side of the face in left-handed people).The third clue to insincerity is in the timing of the smile: unspontaneous smiles tend to occur at socially inappropriate moments in the conversation (e.g. a few seconds after you have made a funny remark, rather than immediately). Finally, there is a clue in the duration of the smile, as a manufactured smile tends to be held for longer (what is often called a 'fixed' smile) and then to fade in an irregular way.

When observing your target's facial expressions, it is important to remember that although an expressive face – showing amusement, surprise, agreement etc. at the appropriate moments – may indicate that your target returns your interest, people do naturally differ in their degree and style of emotional expression. Women naturally tend to smile more than men, for example, and to show emotions more clearly in their facial expressions.

You are also likely to interpret expressions differently depending on who is making them. Experiments have shown that people may read the same expression as 'fear' when they see it on a female face, but as 'anger' when it appears on male face. There are also cultural and even regional differences in the amount of emotion people express with their faces. Oriental people are more likely than Westerners to hide their emotions under a 'blank' expression or a smile, for example, and American researchers have found that in the US, Notherners smile less than people from the South.

If an attractive stranger smiles at you, it could be that he or she finds you attractive, but he or she could also be an outgoing, sociable person from a culture or region in which smiling is commonplace and not particularly meaningful.

These factors must also be taken into account when considering the effect of your own facial expressions. People tend to be put off by levels of expressiveness that are considerably higher or lower than what they are used to, so it could help to try to 'match' the amount of emotion you express with your face to that of your target.

As a general rule, however, your face should be constantly informative during a flirtatious conversation. Unexpressiveness – a blank, unchanging face – will be interpreted as lack of interest when you are listening and an absence of facial emphasis when you are speaking will be disturbing and off-putting. You need to show interest and comprehension when listening, and to promote interest and comprehension when speaking, through facial signals such as eyebrows raised to display surprise, as a question mark or for emphasis; the corners of the mouth turning up in amusement; nodding to indicate agreement; frowning in puzzlement; smiling to show approval, or to indicate that what you are saying should not be taken too seriously, and so on.

Fortunately, most of these facial signals are habitual, and do not have to be consciously manufactured, but some awareness of your facial expressions can help you to monitor their effect and make minor adjustments to put your target more at ease, for example, or hold his or her attention, or increase the level of intimacy.

Finally, remember that your target is unlikely to be scrutinising you for tiny signs of insincerity, so a 'social' smile will be infinitely more attractive than no smile at all.

Touch

Touching is a powerful, subtle and complex form of communication. In social situations, the language of touch can be used to convey a surprising variety of messages. Different touches can be used to express agreement, affection, affiliation or attraction; to offer support; to emphasise a point; to call for attention or participation; to guide and direct; to greet; to congratulate; to establish or reinforce power-relations and to negotiate levels of intimacy.

Even the most fleeting touch can have a dramatic influence on our perceptions and relationships. Experiments have shown that even a light, brief touch on the arm during a brief social encounter between strangers has both immediate and lasting positive effects. Polite requests for help or directions, for example, produced much more positive results when accompanied by a light touch on the arm.

When flirting, it is therefore important to remember that the language of touch, if used correctly, can help to advance the relationship, but that inappropriate use of this powerful tool could ruin your chances forever.

Although there are considerable differences between cultures in the levels of touching that are socially acceptable, and different personalities welcome different levels of touching, we can provide a few basic rules-of-thumb for first encounters with strangers of the opposite sex.

The first rule, for both sexes, is: touch, but be careful. Women are much less comfortable about being touched by an opposite-sex stranger than men, so men should take care to avoid any touches which may seem threatening or over-familiar. Men are inclined to interpret women's friendly gestures as sexual invitations, so women should be equally careful to avoid giving misleading signals with over-familiar touches.

This does not mean 'don't touch', as appropriate touching will have positive benefits, but touching should initially be restricted to universally acceptable areas and levels. As a general rule, the arm is the safest place to touch an opposite-sex stranger. (Back pats are equally non-sexual, but are often perceived as patronising or overbearing.) A brief, light touch on the arm, to draw attention, express support or emphasise a point, is likely to be acceptable and to enhance your companion's positive feelings towards you.

If even this most innocuous of touches produces a negative reaction – such as pulling the arm away, increasing distance, frowning, turning away or other expressions of displeasure or anxiety – you might as well give up now. Unless your companion is exceptionally shy and reserved, negative reactions to a simple arm-touch probably indicate dislike or distrust.

If your companion finds you likeable or attractive, a brief arm-touch should prompt some reciprocal increase in intimacy. This may not be as obvious as a return of your arm-touch, but watch for other positive body-language signals, such as increased eye-contact, moving closer to you, more open posture or postural echo, more smiling, etc. Your arm-touch may even prompt an increase in verbal intimacy, so listen for any disclosure of personal information, or more personal questions.

If you see or hear signs of a positive reaction to your arm-touch, you can, after a reasonable interval, try another arm-touch, this time slightly less fleeting. If this results in a further escalation of verbal or non-verbal intimacy from your companion, you might consider moving to the next stage: a hand-touch.

Remember that a hand-touch, unless it is the conventional handshake of greeting or parting, is much more personal than an arm-touch. By touching your companion's hand, you are opening negotiations towards a higher degree of intimacy, so keep it light and brief: a question, not an order.

A negative reaction to your hand-touch, such as the non-verbal signals of displeasure or anxiety mentioned above, does not necessarily mean that your companion dislikes you, but it is a clear indication that your attempt to advance to the next level of intimacy is either premature or unwelcome. A very positive reaction, involving a significant increase in verbal or non-verbal intimacy, can be taken as permission to try another hand-touch at an appropriate moment.

Highly positive reactions to a second hand-touch – such as a definite and unambiguous attempt to move closer to you, reciprocal arm- and hand-touching, along with significantly more personal questions, more disclosure of personal information and more expression of emotion – can be taken as permission to proceed, with caution, to a higher level of intimacy. The next stages might involve a hand-squeeze or hand-hold, repeated twice before moving on to an arm over the shoulders, or perhaps a brief knee-touch. (Males should note, however, that positive reactions to any of these touches can not be taken as permission to grope.)

You will have noticed that we advise performing each touch two times before progressing to the next level. This is because repeating the same touch, perhaps with a slightly longer duration, allows you to check that reactions are still positive, that you were not mistaken in your judgement that the touch was acceptable. The repetition also tells your companion that the first touch was not accidental or unconscious, that you are consciously negotiating for an increase in intimacy. Repeating the same touch before moving to the next level is a non-verbal way of saying "Are you sure?".

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Vocal signals

You may be surprised to see this heading in the 'Non-verbal flirting' section, but 'verbal' means 'words' and vocal signals such as tone of voice, pitch, volume, speed of speech, etc. are like body-language in that they are not about what you say, the words you use, but about how you say it.

We noted at the beginning of this 'non-verbal' section that people's first impressions of you are based 55% on your appearance and body language, 38% on your style of speaking and only 7% on what you actually say. In other words, body-language may be your most important 'flirting tool', but vocal signals come a very close second. The more you think about that 38%, the more concerned you will be to ensure that your vocal signals make the best possible impression. An ability to 'read' the vocal signals of the person you are flirting with will also help you to find out how he or she really feels about you.

Attraction and interest, for example, are communicated much more by the tone of voice than by what is actually said. Depending on the tone, volume, speed and pitch, even a simple phrase such as "Good evening" can convey anything from "Wow, you're gorgeous" to "I find you totally uninteresting and I'm looking for an excuse to get away from you as quickly as possible".

If your target gives you a deep-toned, low pitched, slow, drawn-out "Good evening", with a slight rising intonation at the end, as though asking a question, this is probably an indication of attraction or at least interest. If you get a short, high-pitched, clipped "Good evening", or a monotone, expressionless version, your target is probably not interested in you.

Once you are in conversation, remember that the intonation of even a single word can communicate an immense variety of emotions and meanings. As an experiment, try practising variations in your intonation of the one-word response "Yeah", and you will find that you can communicate anything from enthusiastic agreement to grudging acceptance to varying degrees of scepticism to total disbelief.

If you speak in a monotone, with little variation in pitch, pace or tone of voice, you will be perceived as boring and dull, even if what you are saying is truly fascinating or exceptionally amusing. Loud volume, a booming tone and too much variation in pitch will make you seem overbearing. Speak too quietly or too slowly and you will seem submissive or even depressed. Aim for moderation in volume and tone, with enough variation in pitch and pace to hold your companion's interest.

Also remember that a rising or falling intonation, especially when accompanied by a drop in volume, is a 'turn-yielding cue', whereby speakers signal that they have finished what they are saying and are ready to listen to the other person. When you hear these vocal signals, your companion is probably indicating that it is your turn to speak. When your companion hears these signals, he or she may well assume that you are 'yielding' the floor. If you frequently end sentences on a rising or falling intonation, with a drop in volume, and then carry on without allowing your companion to speak, he or she will become frustrated. Taking your turn when your companion has not given any vocal 'turn-yielding cues', even if he or she has finished a sentence, will be perceived as interruption, and is equally irritating.
Verbal flirting

Although your target's initial impressions of you will depend more on your appearance, body language and voice than on what you actually say, successful flirting also requires good conversation skills.

The 'art' of verbal flirting is really just a matter of knowing the rules of conversation, the unwritten laws of etiquette governing talking and listening. The best and most enjoyable conversations may seem entirely spontaneous, but the people involved are still obeying rules. The difference is that they are following the rules automatically, without consciously trying, just as skilled, experienced drivers do not have think about changing gears. But understanding how the rules of conversation work – like learning how and when to change gears – will help you to converse more fluently, and flirt more successfully.

Studies have shown that women tend to be more skilled at informal social conversation than men, both because they are naturally more socially sensitive, and because they have better verbal/communication skills. (Men make up for this with superior visual-spatial abilities, but these are not much help in verbal flirting.) Men can, of course, easily learn to be as skilled in the art of conversation as women – it is only a matter of following a few simple rules – but some do not take the trouble to learn, or may be unaware of their deficiencies in this area. Those males who do take the trouble to improve their conversation skills (perhaps by reading this Guide) have a definite advantage in the flirting stakes.
Opening lines

When the subject of flirting comes up, most people seem to be obsessed with the issue of 'opening lines' or 'chat-up lines'. Men talk about lines that work and lines that have failed; women laugh about men's use of hackneyed or awkward opening lines, and all of us, whether we admit it or not, would like to find the perfect, original, creative way to strike up a conversation with someone we find attractive.

The answer, perhaps surprisingly, is that your opening line is really not very important, and all this striving for originality and wit is a wasted effort. The fact is that conversational 'openers' are rarely original, witty or elegant, and no-one expects them to be so. The best 'openers' are, quite simply, those which can easily be recognised as 'openers' – as attempts to start a conversation.

The traditional British comment on the weather ("Nice day, isn't it?" or "Doesn't feel much like summer, eh?", etc.) will do just fine, as everyone knows that it is a conversation-starter. The fact that these comments are phrased as questions, or with a rising 'interrogative' intonation, does not mean that the speaker is unsure about the quality of the weather and requires confirmation: it means that the speaker is inviting a response in order to start a conversation.

In Britain, it is universally understood that such weather-comments have nothing to do with the weather, and they are universally accepted as conversation-starters. Saying "Lovely day, isn't it?" (or a rainy-day equivalent) is the British way of saying "I'd like to talk to you; will you talk to me?"

A friendly response , including positive body language, means "Yes, I'll talk to you"; a monosyllabic response (accompanied by body-language signalling lack of interest) means "No, I don't want to talk to you", and no verbal response at all, with body language signalling annoyance or dislike, means "Shut up and go away".

If you are indoors – say at a party or in a bar – and nowhere near a window, some equally innocuous general comment on your surroundings ("Bit crowded, isn't it?", "Not very lively here tonight, eh?") or on the food, drink, music, etc., will serve much the same purpose as the conventional weather-comment. The words are really quite unimportant, and there is no point in striving to be witty or amusing: just make a vague, impersonal comment, either phrased as a question or with a rising intonation as though you were asking a question.

This formula – the impersonal interrogative comment – has evolved as the standard method of initiating conversation with strangers because it is extremely effective. The non-personal nature of the comment makes it unthreatening and non-intrusive; the interrogative (questioning) tone or 'isn't it?' ending invites a response, but is not as demanding as a direct or open question.

There is a big difference between an interrogative comment such as "Terrible weather, eh?" and a direct, open question such as "What do you think of this weather?". The direct question demands and requires a reply, the interrogative comment allows the other person to respond minimally, or not respond at all, if he or she does not wish to talk to you.

In some social contexts – such as those involving sports, hobbies, learning, business or other specific activities – the assumption of shared interests makes initiating conversation much easier, as your opening line can refer to some aspect of the activity in question. In some such contexts, there may even be a ritual procedure to follow for initiating conversation with a stranger. At the races, for example, anyone can ask anyone "What's your tip for the next?" or "What do you fancy in the 3.30?", a ritual opening which effectively eliminates all the usual awkwardness of approaching a stranger.

Unless the context you are in provides such a convenient ritual, use the IIC (Impersonal Interrogative Comment) formula. This formula can be adapted to almost any situation or occasion. Just make a general, impersonal comment on some aspect of the event, activity, circumstances or surroundings, with a rising intonation or 'isn't it?' type of ending. Your target will recognise this as a conversation-starter, and his or her response will tell you immediately whether or not it is welcomed.

There are of course degrees of positive and negative response to an IIC. The elements you need to listen for are length, personalising and questioning. As a general rule, the longer the response, the better. If your target responds to your comment with a reply of the same length or longer, this is a good sign. A personalised response, i.e. one including the word 'I' (as in, for example, "Yes, I love this weather") is even more positive. A personalised response ending in a question or interrogative (rising) intonation (as in "I thought it was supposed to clear up by this afternoon?") is even better, and a personalised response involving a personalised question, i.e. a response including the words 'I' and 'you', is the most positive of all.

So, if you say "Nice day, isn't it?" and your target replies "Yes, I was getting so tired of all that rain, weren't you?", you are definitely in with a chance. Note that there is nothing original, witty or clever about the above exchange. You may even be inclined to dismiss it as polite, boring and insignificant. In fact, a great deal of vital social information has been exchanged. The opener has been recognised as a friendly invitation to a conversation, the invitation has been accepted, the target has revealed something about him/herself, expressed interest in you, and even suggested that you might have something in common!

The biggest mistake most people make with opening lines is to try to start a flirtation, rather than simply trying to start a conversation. If you think about your opening line as initiating a conversation, rather than starting a flirtation, use the IIC formula and pay close attention to the verbal and non-verbal response, you cannot go wrong. Even if your target does not find you attractive and declines your invitation to talk, you will avoid causing offence and you will avoid the humiliation of a direct rejection.

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Turn-taking

Once you have initiated a conversation with your chosen target, your success in making a favourable impression will depend as much on your social skills as on what you say.

We have probably all met at least one person who is highly articulate, witty and amusing, but who loses friends and alienates people by hogging the conversation, not allowing others to get a word in. You may also have come across the equally irritating strong, silent type who makes you do all the 'work' in the conversation – who never asks a question, never expresses interest and makes no effort to keep the conversation flowing.

What you have to say may be fascinating, and you may express it with great eloquence, but if you have not grasped the basic social skills involved in conversational turn-taking, you will be perceived as arrogant and unpleasant, and neither your target nor anyone else will enjoy your company.

The basic rule on how much to talk is very simple: try to make your contribution to the conversation roughly equal to that of your partner. The essence of a good conversation, and a successful flirtation, is reciprocity: give-and-take, sharing, exchange, with both parties contributing equally as talkers and as listeners.

Achieving this reciprocity requires an understanding of the etiquette of turn-taking, knowing when to take your turn, as well as when and how to 'yield the floor' to your partner. So, how do you know when it is your turn to speak? Pauses are not necessarily an infallible guide – one study found that the length of the average pause during speech was 0.807 seconds, while the average pause between speakers was shorter, only 0.764 seconds. In other words, people clearly used signals other than pauses to indicate that they had finished speaking.

In previous sections of the Guide, we have described in detail the various non-verbal signals people use to show that they have finished what they are saying, and that it is your turn to speak. These include eye-contact signals (remember that people look away more when they are speaking, so when they look back at you, this often indicates that it is your turn) and vocal signals such as rising or falling intonation, with a drop in volume. This may be accompanied by verbal 'turn-yielding' signals, such as the completion of a clause or 'tailing off' into meaningless expressions such as "you know".

As a general rule, the more of these turn-yielding cues occur simultaneously, the more likely it is that your partner has finished and expects you to speak. Watching and listening for these clues will help you to avoid interrupting, and also to avoid awkward gaps and lengthy pauses in the conversation.
Talking

This Guide clearly cannot tell you exactly what to say, what words to use, in a flirtatious conversation, but it is possible to provide some general guidelines on what you talk about, and how you express yourself, particularly in terms of mistakes and pitfalls to avoid.

Negativity, for example, is real turn-off. If you talk too much about the bad side of things, and constantly complain about the world or your own problems, your partner will soon get bored and fed up. Other characteristics that research has identified as particularly boring or off-putting include self-preoccupation (talking too much about yourself and showing too little interest in others), banality (only talking about superficial things, repeating hackneyed jokes and stories), tediousness (talking too slowly, pausing too long, taking too long to make a point), passivity (failing to take full part in the conversation or express opinions), lack of enthusiasm (talking in a monotone, not making eye-contact, expressing too little emotion), over-seriousness (using a serious tone of voice and expression, even when your partner is trying to be light-hearted or humorous) and over-excitement (easily sidetracked, engaging in too much meaningless chatter, too much slang).

Compliments, on the other hand, are almost universally welcomed, and do not have to be witty or original. In an analysis of 600 verbatim compliments, linguists found that they tend to follow a tried-and-tested formula, with the word "nice" occurring in nearly 25% of the compliments studied, and the word "you" in almost 75%. In other words, you should not be afraid of paying simple, unflowery compliments such as "That's a nice jacket" or "That colour really suits you", as they can be very effective.

Clearly, excessive use of compliments will make you seem ingratiating, and your partner may become bored with too much suffocating niceness, but of all the ways you can bore someone, studies have shown that this is the least offensive.

Males should, however, avoid paying women embarrassing or potentially offensive compliments. This is not a matter of 'political correctness', but of basic social skills. Some men need to learn that it is entirely possible to convey to a female friend or acquaintance that you find her physically attractive, without being crass or intrusive.

A simple, admiring comment such as "You look lovely (or pretty, or stunning)" is enough. Anything more explicit will only cause embarrassment or offence. The body-language must be right as well: address the compliment to her face, not to her chest, and without leering or what the Americans call 'elevator eyes' (eyes travelling up and down the body).

Timing is equally important: there are times, places and situations where any comment on a woman's appearance, however innocent, would be inappropriate and potentially offensive. It is not possible to list all these situations here, but as a rule-of-thumb, only comment on a woman's appearance a) if you know her well enough (this kind of compliment should not be used as an opening line, but only at a much later stage in flirtatious conversation) and b) at times, places and situations where appearance is relevant – i.e. where it would be acceptable to comment on a man's appearance. If the situation is not one in which you would compliment a male acquaintance on his flattering new jacket or haircut, do not comment on a female's appearance either.

(Males please note: 80% of women think that they are too fat. In one American survey, women were asked what were the three words they would most like to hear from a male partner. The most common answer was not, as expected, "I love you", but "You've lost weight". While you should not make any comment on a woman's figure unless you know her well, this compliment might please a girlfriend or close female friend.)
Listening

Good listeners have distinct advantages in the flirting stakes, but being a good listener is not just about shutting up and letting the other person talk (although this certainly helps). Good listening is essentially about giving good 'feedback', which involves giving both verbal and non-verbal signals to show that you are a) paying attention, and b) interested.

Effective non-verbal feedback signals include nodding, smiling, responsive facial expressions and leaning forwards, accompanied by general positive body language such as 'open' posture and posture/gesture echo. Good verbal feedback signals include the use of expressions such as "mm-hmm", "yeah", "mmm", "ah" to show interest or agreement and to encourage the other person to continue.

Research has shown that these basic feedback signals are highly effective in winning friends and influencing people. They can even result in concrete, tangible rewards: studies have found, for example, that candidates who give this sort of feedback during job interviews are more likely to be successful than those who do not. Even just a few nods can significantly improve your chances, both in interviews and in flirtatious conversation.

Another effective good-listener technique is 'paraphrasing'. To show that you are paying attention and interested, and to encourage your partner to tell you more, it can help if you occasionally sum up what your partner has said, as in "…so you were stranded at the station with no money! How did you get home?" This paraphrasing will be particularly helpful if your partner seems a bit shy, insecure or anxious, as it will make him or her feel more confident.

You may have noticed that the question at the end of the 'paraphrasing' example was an 'open' question, rather than a 'closed' question requiring only a yes or no response. If you want to encourage your partner to talk, try to ask more open questions, such as "What kind of food do you like?" than closed questions such as "Do you like Chinese food?"

If you are not sure about the difference, remember that open questions begin with one of the following words: Who, What, When, Where, How, Why. Journalists and personnel managers are taught to ask questions beginning with these words in interviews, to encourage job candidates and sources to give detailed replies, but they are equally effective in informal social conversation – particularly in flirting!

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Reciprocal disclosure

One of the most important aspects of verbal flirting is what psychologists call 'reciprocal disclosure' – the exchange of personal information. In fact, unless partners disclose at least some personal details, the conversation can hardly be called a flirtation.

When you first meet, these details do not have to be particularly intimate: disclosure of almost any personal information, even something as innocent as the fact that one likes warm weather or Italian food, is a move towards intimacy.

If your partner discloses some such detail, you should reciprocate as soon as possible by revealing some similar information about yourself, perhaps 'raising the ante' a little by making your disclosure slightly more personal. If your partner likes you, he or she will probably try to 'match' your disclosure with one of similar value. Reciprocal disclosure of this kind is a much more subtle and less threatening route to intimacy than asking direct personal questions.

The key to successful flirtation is to escalate the level of intimacy gradually, always maintaining a balance between your disclosures and those of your partner. Avoid getting too far ahead by revealing too much, or lagging behind by revealing too little.

Women should be aware that men tend to interpret disclosure of personal information as a sign of sexual availability, and be particularly careful about how much they reveal.

Humour

Humour is a powerful flirting tool. It is almost impossible to flirt successfully or enjoyably without it, and yet it can easily backfire if abused or misused.

On the positive side, studies have shown that people who use humour in social encounters are perceived as more likeable, and that both trust and attraction increase when a light-hearted approach is used. Judicious use of humour can reduce anxiety and establish a relaxed mood which helps a relationship to develop more rapidly. A slightly risqué joke can help to escalate the level of intimacy in a flirtatious conversation.

On the negative side, inappropriate use of humour can kill a promising flirtation stone dead in a matter of seconds. Making a risqué joke or comment too early, for example, before a reasonable degree of intimacy has been established, is the verbal equivalent of a bum-pinch. Men are generally more likely to make this kind of fatal mistake than women. Women, however, need to be even more cautious in their use of sexual humour, as men will be inclined to interpret this as a sign of sexual availability.

While it is clearly important to avoid causing offence or giving misleading signals, humour is an essential element of flirtation. Flirting is by definition a light-hearted, playful form of interaction. A flirtatious encounter may eventually lead to a 'serious', long-term relationship, but too much seriousness in the early stages is off-putting. Even in the longer term, a capacity for light-hearted playfulness is important. It is no accident that so many single people seeking partners through the personal ads include 'gsoh' (good sense of humour) in their requirements.

Humour can clearly help to reduce tension and awkwardness in the early stages of a flirtatious encounter. In the section on opening lines, we advised the use of phrases which are universally recognised as 'conversation-starters', such as comments on the weather. A touch of humour can make these openers even more effective. There is no need for elaborate attempts at wit: a simple twist such as "Lovely day, isn't it?" during a torrential downpour will raise a smile if your target finds you attractive. (If your target does not find you attractive, more elaborate efforts will be no more effective.)

Once some degree of mutual attraction has been established, the use of humour in flirtatious conversations tends to come naturally, as both parties are motivated to keep their target amused and interested. Our natural instinct is to try to make the other person smile. We need constant reassurance that we are liked and appreciated by the object of our attraction, and smiles and laughter provide that reassurance.

One particular form of humour, playful teasing, is particularly common in flirtatious encounters. This is because playful teasing allows partners to increase the 'personal' content of the exchange, while keeping the tone light-hearted and non-serious, thus escalating the level of disclosure and intimacy in a non-threatening manner. Men respond particularly well to this form of humour, as it closely resembles the 'mock-arguments' and good-humoured exchanges of insults which are their normal means of expressing friendship among themselves.

The most common mistakes in flirtatious use of humour involve opposite extremes. Men are more likely to over-use humour or monopolise the joke-telling, and fail to notice that their companion is bored or frustrated. Women sometimes have a tendency to under-use humour – to adopt a serious tone when their companion would be more comfortable with light-hearted banter. There are many exceptions, of course: we've all met heavy-going men and raucous women, but most studies show that women are generally more cautious in their use of humour, while men are more inclined to avoid heart-to-heart seriousness.

If you feel you may sometimes be guilty of either excessive or inadequate use of humour, watch your companion carefully for signs of boredom or embarrassment – such as feet or body turning away from you, forced smiles, reduced eye-contact, reduced verbal attention-signals, fidgeting, defensive arm-crossing, etc. If you are overdoing the humour, these would be your cues to tone it down a bit. If you are being too serious, lighten up!

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Parting

Your approach to leave-taking after a flirtatious conversation is of critical importance, as it will determine your future relationship with your companion.

Many flirtatious encounters are of naturally short duration – where it is understood that there are no serious intentions, merely an ego-boosting acknowledgement of mutual attraction. These light-hearted 'brief encounters' are part of normal social interaction, and only the pathetic or desperate would imagine that every passing exchange of flirtatious banter is a prelude to matrimony.

Flirting would not, however, be such a universal feature of human interaction if it did not occasionally serve some more long-term purpose – such as sex, reproduction, the survival of the species, etc. While there is no harm in practising our flirting skills just for the fun of it, there will be some occasions when we wish to pursue the relationship, and a cheery, unconcerned "Bye, then" or "Nice meeting you" will not do. This is when parting words and gestures take on greater significance.

Every salesperson knows that there is little point in establishing a great rapport with potential customers, attracting their interest, gaining their trust and so on, if you fail to 'close' – 'closing' being sales-speak for actually making the sale, securing the contract, getting the customer to hand over money or sign on the dotted line. Sales staff are specifically trained in 'closing techniques' to help them achieve this all-important goal.

In the same way, if you are genuinely attracted to your flirting partner, and want to see him or her again, none of the flirting skills in this Guide will be much use unless you can 'close' effectively. In this case, your goal in 'closing' is to secure not a contract or a sale, but the chance to meet again.

At the risk of rejection, this is the moment when you must be explicit about your wishes. Subtle hints and positive body-language will help you to get to this point, and careful observation of your partner's reactions will tell you whether your 'closing' is likely to be successful, but these techniques cannot, by themselves, get you a phone number or a date! You have to ask. And the most effective strategy is simple honesty. You don't have to declare undying love, just ask: "Would you like to meet for a drink sometime next week?" (or some equivalent, the exact words are unimportant, but it must a be a clear request). If making a date on the spot would be awkward or inappropriate, say something like: "Perhaps we could meet again sometime – could I have your phone number?"

Some American 'dating manuals' recommend that you precede this request with a statement such as "I've really enjoyed talking with you and I'd like to see you again". You are welcome to do this if you wish, but it would seem to be already implicit in the request for a date or phone number, and therefore somewhat superfluous.

Dating manuals and articles in glossy women's magazines also constantly insist that it is perfectly acceptable nowadays for women to take the initiative in asking men out. In fact, they never fail to exclaim, men love it when women take the initiative. This is quite true, and if you read the more scientific research on the subject, you will find out why. The studies and experiments show that men perceive women who take the initiative in asking a man out as more sexually available. To put it more bluntly, if a woman asks them out, they think they have a better chance of 'scoring'. Naturally, they are delighted.

If you are female, and wish to avoid giving this impression, there is a simple solution. Instead of asking for his phone number, offer your own. Say something like: "Maybe we could have a drink sometime? – here's my number". This makes it perfectly clear that you are interested, but still requires the man to take the initiative in asking for a date.

You are of course free to dismiss this suggestion as hopelessly old-fashioned, sexist, pandering to double-standards, etc. It is not the place of this Guide to make moral judgements about flirting, merely to provide information on the latest scientific findings. Flirting has been part of human behaviour for thousands of years, and whether we approve or not, the latest findings show that not much has changed. Males have always tended towards an over-optimistic interpretation of female signals, and females have always adjusted their signals to encourage only selected males.

Despite the disapproval of 17th-century Puritans, Victorian moralists and their modern equivalents in both the 'moral majority' and 'political correctness' camps, these basic flirting instincts persist, and the human species survives.

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Anyway, I really liked that guide. You couldn't tell, huh?
Go a little easy on the intensity though, last week I scared a girl off with too much direct eye contact, she got nervous. Boo.

[panem]

holy shit thats fucking long. LOL!!!

dude just say HI!!!

oh yeah and never get to freindly

[nebolic]

dude u drive an EVO, you'll get no game. Get a vette and you'll have the hunnies lined up (bdking)

nebo

[sprytsi]

you should never be 'too nice'. Girls like mistery and they like a challenge.

My best advice is to stop looking for a g/f and HAVE FUN! Girls really like guys who have fun and want to spend more time with them. Do things YOU LIKE and find female friends that do the same.

Best advice EVAR!

[awdaddict]

Go to a school club :lol:

Find someone that has similar interest to initiate your approach.

[ChuckP]

^ true. Or sell you evo and buy an entry level BMW or Benz :D

[GsxEcutioner]

dude u drive an EVO, you'll get no game. Get a vette and you'll have the hunnies lined up (bdking)

nebo



I drive a Galant Vr-4 lol

[Daniel]

you should never be 'too nice'. Girls like mistery and they like a challenge.

My best advice is to stop looking for a g/f and HAVE FUN! Girls really like guys who have fun and want to spend more time with them. Do things YOU LIKE and find female friends that do the same.

Best advice EVAR!


qft.

stop looking and they will find you instead.

[player67]

wow i cant believe all that above is a how to on flirting...man just go to a club and start dancing with girls, that boosts confidence rapidly and will help with talking to girls in the norm scene...what type of girls do you go for?

[pjb00stin]

patron.for you and her.

[ChuckP]

GHB for you and her.


not cool dude

[Daniel]

GHB for you and her.


not cool dude


Yeah, GHB should only be for her....

roofiecolada?

[Pure EvoIX]

Just sneak up from behind and PIITB. j/k :D

[ChuckP]

Just sneak up from behind and PIITB. j/k :D


why are you kidding? :D

[Daniel]

Just sneak up from behind and PIITB. j/k :D



http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/dwcdwc/surprise-buttsex.jpg

[GsxEcutioner]

lol, i dont know what I want lol, thats the problem, I know I dont want a party clubber, I want a girl thats not gunna be whoring around. and is fine with kicken it with my homies, because its just how our clique is, we are a certain number group, that always kick it on the weekends, I dont know -___-..........................

[TougeGod7]

lol, i dont know what I want lol, thats the problem, I know I dont want a party clubber, I want a girl thats not gunna be whoring around. and is fine with kicken it with my homies, because its just how our clique is, we are a certain number group, that always kick it on the weekends, I dont know -___-..........................


lol if "kicking it with your homies" is anything like evo meats no girl is ever going to work for you :lol:

[dabaysevo]

Well, this might not make you feel a lot better but...
I'm a nice guy too. (If I were dabaysevo, this is where i hit on you.) I didn't ever really get "game" as I can't play the games that seem to be the norm in the dating/party scene. But now fifteen years of being a nice guy is paying off: I have a bunch of friends who are girls, and they are all about the matchmaking now that I'm over thirty. (This weekend was spent with a friends ex gf partying at a penthouse in SF.)

So my advice: Keep it up, you'll start getting laid in ten years for sure!
(I have more advice, will make another post.)


Thanks for the reference sexy. ;)

[dabaysevo]

lol, i dont know what I want lol, thats the problem, I know I dont want a party clubber, I want a girl thats not gunna be whoring around. and is fine with kicken it with my homies, because its just how our clique is, we are a certain number group, that always kick it on the weekends, I dont know -___-..........................


lol if "kicking it with your homies" is anything like evo meats no girl is ever going to work for you :lol:


Lies, you keep coming back all the time. ;)

[dabaysevo]

lol, i dont know what I want lol, thats the problem, I know I dont want a party clubber, I want a girl thats not gunna be whoring around. and is fine with kicken it with my homies, because its just how our clique is, we are a certain number group, that always kick it on the weekends, I dont know -___-..........................


You have to know what you want, otherwise you'll waste your time. Ask yourself if you like a girl that isn't clingy and is more assertive with her needs or a girl that is passive and just wants to spend time with you all the time. You have to be careful with what you ask for though. Getting with women is easy, as long as you don't put pussy up on a pedestal. The hardest part is maintaining a relationship especially if you get with a girl that is really different from you.

[japbeercow]

Girls like assholes. Be an asshole. There is a theory called the 'Deacon Effect' which details this. I tried to find the link for you but after clicking two google links got bored. Anyways, I've found this works better if you are just trying to bone chicks. If you want to actually have a relationship, be less of an asshole but still be an asshole. I think the degree of assholeness depends on the chick.

[pjb00stin]

Girls like assholes. Be an asshole. There is a theory called the 'Deacon Effect' which details this. I tried to find the link for you but after clicking two google links got bored. Anyways, I've found this works better if you are just trying to bone chicks. If you want to actually have a relationship, be less of an asshole but still be an asshole. I think the degree of assholeness depends on the chick.


whoo hoo doctor phil!

work on guys,too?

[japbeercow]

whoo hoo doctor phil!

work on guys,too?


If you want to pick up guys, all you need is an Evo. Cocks flock to it. I get checked out every time I take it out ;(

[GsxEcutioner]

lol, i dont know what I want lol, thats the problem, I know I dont want a party clubber, I want a girl thats not gunna be whoring around. and is fine with kicken it with my homies, because its just how our clique is, we are a certain number group, that always kick it on the weekends, I dont know -___-..........................


lol if "kicking it with your homies" is anything like evo meats no girl is ever going to work for you :lol:


lol Uhm no my homies and I just chill wherever and do whatever, eat ,kick it, BBQ, Race......., do the usual a 20 year old group of Asians would do.....

[GsxEcutioner]

lol, i dont know what I want lol, thats the problem, I know I dont want a party clubber, I want a girl thats not gunna be whoring around. and is fine with kicken it with my homies, because its just how our clique is, we are a certain number group, that always kick it on the weekends, I dont know -___-..........................


You have to know what you want, otherwise you'll waste your time. Ask yourself if you like a girl that isn't clingy and is more assertive with her needs or a girl that is passive and just wants to spend time with you all the time. You have to be careful with what you ask for though. Getting with women is easy, as long as you don't put pussy up on a pedestal. The hardest part is maintaining a relationship especially if you get with a girl that is really different from you.


I want one that knows what she has to do in life, and goes after it, but still has time to spend with me and the ones close to me. you know?

[player67]

lol, i dont know what I want lol, thats the problem, I know I dont want a party clubber, I want a girl thats not gunna be whoring around. and is fine with kicken it with my homies, because its just how our clique is, we are a certain number group, that always kick it on the weekends, I dont know -___-..........................


You have to know what you want, otherwise you'll waste your time. Ask yourself if you like a girl that isn't clingy and is more assertive with her needs or a girl that is passive and just wants to spend time with you all the time. You have to be careful with what you ask for though. Getting with women is easy, as long as you don't put pussy up on a pedestal. The hardest part is maintaining a relationship especially if you get with a girl that is really different from you.


I want one that knows what she has to do in life, and goes after it, but still has time to spend with me and the ones close to me. you know?


BRO youre 20 years old...you have the rest of your life for that shit.....you need to fuck around and treat girls like pieces of meat

[dabaysevo]

^Says the STD infested magic carpet jockey. ;)

[peter]

lol, i dont know what I want lol, thats the problem, I know I dont want a party clubber, I want a girl thats not gunna be whoring around. and is fine with kicken it with my homies, because its just how our clique is, we are a certain number group, that always kick it on the weekends, I dont know -___-..........................


You have to know what you want, otherwise you'll waste your time. Ask yourself if you like a girl that isn't clingy and is more assertive with her needs or a girl that is passive and just wants to spend time with you all the time. You have to be careful with what you ask for though. Getting with women is easy, as long as you don't put pussy up on a pedestal. The hardest part is maintaining a relationship especially if you get with a girl that is really different from you.


I want one that knows what she has to do in life, and goes after it, but still has time to spend with me and the ones close to me. you know?


BRO youre 20 years old...you have the rest of your life for that shit.....you need to fuck around and treat girls like pieces of meat


+1. get all of that out of your system. otherwise you'll find yourself either:

1. fucking other girls while you're 30. which is fun, yet its at the age where you want to start settling down.
2. stuck with a girl and want to cheat.
3. regret tasting all of the food at the buffet, rather than sticking with the steak and king crab. (mmmm king crab)

in conclusion, king crab is delicious.

[ChuckP]

^ i hate seafood..

[GsxEcutioner]

lol, i dont know what I want lol, thats the problem, I know I dont want a party clubber, I want a girl thats not gunna be whoring around. and is fine with kicken it with my homies, because its just how our clique is, we are a certain number group, that always kick it on the weekends, I dont know -___-..........................


You have to know what you want, otherwise you'll waste your time. Ask yourself if you like a girl that isn't clingy and is more assertive with her needs or a girl that is passive and just wants to spend time with you all the time. You have to be careful with what you ask for though. Getting with women is easy, as long as you don't put pussy up on a pedestal. The hardest part is maintaining a relationship especially if you get with a girl that is really different from you.


I want one that knows what she has to do in life, and goes after it, but still has time to spend with me and the ones close to me. you know?


BRO youre 20 years old...you have the rest of your life for that shit.....you need to fuck around and treat girls like pieces of meat


+1. get all of that out of your system. otherwise you'll find yourself either:

1. fucking other girls while you're 30. which is fun, yet its at the age where you want to start settling down.
2. stuck with a girl and want to cheat.
3. regret tasting all of the food at the buffet, rather than sticking with the steak and king crab. (mmmm king crab)

in conclusion, king crab is delicious.


English please? lol I don't understand food talk

[slimdatwelve209]

get off norcal and go do something bro i think you got plenty advice

[peter]

lol, i dont know what I want lol, thats the problem, I know I dont want a party clubber, I want a girl thats not gunna be whoring around. and is fine with kicken it with my homies, because its just how our clique is, we are a certain number group, that always kick it on the weekends, I dont know -___-..........................


You have to know what you want, otherwise you'll waste your time. Ask yourself if you like a girl that isn't clingy and is more assertive with her needs or a girl that is passive and just wants to spend time with you all the time. You have to be careful with what you ask for though. Getting with women is easy, as long as you don't put pussy up on a pedestal. The hardest part is maintaining a relationship especially if you get with a girl that is really different from you.


I want one that knows what she has to do in life, and goes after it, but still has time to spend with me and the ones close to me. you know?


BRO youre 20 years old...you have the rest of your life for that shit.....you need to fuck around and treat girls like pieces of meat


+1. get all of that out of your system. otherwise you'll find yourself either:

1. fucking other girls while you're 30. which is fun, yet its at the age where you want to start settling down.
2. stuck with a girl and want to cheat.
3. regret tasting all of the food at the buffet, rather than sticking with the steak and king crab. (mmmm king crab)

in conclusion, king crab is delicious.


English please? lol I don't understand food talk


get crabs, crabs are good. :lol:

[06IXMR]

Tell the bitch shes ugly and ....grab a titty and run..and when she turns around...SUPRISE!! do it again!

[GsxEcutioner]

lol, I just seem to get depressed a lot, When Im with all my friends and all, they all have Girls. Then I just sit and think that there is something wrong with me =/ ..........lol Emo right?

[ChuckP]

do u cut?

[nebolic]

lol that's your problem. if all you friends have gf's then you won't go to party places and meet people. hang out with single people, or people who don't give a shit if they have a gf and just wanna bone.

nebo




lol, I just seem to get depressed a lot, When Im with all my friends and all, they all have Girls. Then I just sit and think that there is something wrong with me =/ ..........lol Emo right?

[overdrive]

I'm not being an asshole here, but I am trying to help a fellow member.

GsxEcutioner,
If all else fails, try eharmony.com or match.com

From there, you will be able to see women who have the same interests as you, etc. A few of my co-workers actually met their soul mates or how some may call it, love of their life by going there.

Don't go to lavalife, loveline, etc. Don't waste your time on that shit.

[sprytsi]

Find new friends, it is common to get emo when everyone around you is in a relationship and you aren't.

Being in a relationship and being happy in a relationship are two different things though

[06IXMR]

I'm not being an asshole here, but I am trying to help a fellow member.

GsxEcutioner,
If all else fails, try eharmony.com or match.com

From there, you will be able to see women who have the same interests as you, etc. A few of my co-workers actually met their soul mates or how some may call it, love of their life by going there.

Don't go to lavalife, loveline, etc. Don't waste your time on that shit.


ive heard mix things about those sites. Like if you can't hold a proper relationship without going onto the internet then once you do, you'll end up in square one again. Maybe those sites will help youi find people but, its going to have the same results as if you found them in person. I never have tried those sites myself but, I've known a lot who have tried them and tried to get fuck buddies ahhaha... but, if your friends found the right one on there then it must be good for something.

[GsxEcutioner]

Find new friends, it is common to get emo when everyone around you is in a relationship and you aren't.

Being in a relationship and being happy in a relationship are two different things though


I cant really find "new friends" because my friends are really like my brothers, My "clique" as you want to call it, are all Family, been there through everything, Hing Dai til the end... you know?

[overdrive]

I'm not being an asshole here, but I am trying to help a fellow member.

GsxEcutioner,
If all else fails, try eharmony.com or match.com

From there, you will be able to see women who have the same interests as you, etc. A few of my co-workers actually met their soul mates or how some may call it, love of their life by going there.

Don't go to lavalife, loveline, etc. Don't waste your time on that shit.


ive heard mix things about those sites. Like if you can't hold a proper relationship without going onto the internet then once you do, you'll end up in square one again. Maybe those sites will help youi find people but, its going to have the same results as if you found them in person. I never have tried those sites myself but, I've known a lot who have tried them and tried to get fuck buddies ahhaha... but, if your friends found the right one on there then it must be good for something.


It worked for a few of my co-workers, that's why I recommended GsxEcutioner to try it out.

I know what you mean about the fuck buddies. I also know a few people who do that. I just pity the woman they bring over. I can see it in their faces that they wanted to have a serious relationship, but the assholes I know just wants to have a good time in bed.

GsxEcutioner,
Try going to the gym, clubs, or something. You'll eventually find someone. Standing on the corner doing nothing will get you no woman you want. You just need to be brave enough to approach women. Also, don't try to be something/someone your not. The key is be yourself.

[GsxEcutioner]

Thats what all my homies say ^^^ but being myself doesn't work =/

[sprytsi]

Find new friends, it is common to get emo when everyone around you is in a relationship and you aren't.

Being in a relationship and being happy in a relationship are two different things though


I cant really find "new friends" because my friends are really like my brothers, My "clique" as you want to call it, are all Family, been there through everything, Hing Dai til the end... you know?


That's great, but they aren't getting you a girl apparently. I'm not saying that you throw them under the bus and find a whole new group of friends, just expand your friend base a little.

The key is to increase your social network enough to find a suitable female. In Example: Meet cool dude A that shares many of your hobbies, he knows cool dude B that is part of Friend Network Z which has available females, you hang out with Friend Network Z and meet some new girls.

In simple terms, go find some more friends to help introduce you to more women. You don't have to get rid of your current 'family' though.

[ChuckP]

^ahhh so Network Z has all the hoes...

[sprytsi]

^ahhh so Network Z has all the hoes...


I think Network X has all the cross-dressing dirty hoes you seek...

I believe the OP was about finding decent dating women?

[ChuckP]

^ahhh so Network Z has all the hoes...


I think Network X has all the cross-dressing dirty hoes you seek...

I believe the OP was about finding decent dating women?


Do the network x hoes have dem adams apples i luv so dearly?

OP got 5 pages dedicated to finding him a nice girl..now it's time to find me a skank.

[sprytsi]

^ahhh so Network Z has all the hoes...


I think Network X has all the cross-dressing dirty hoes you seek...

I believe the OP was about finding decent dating women?


Do the network x hoes have dem adams apples i luv so dearly?


The biggest damn apples you've ever seen!

[Lurk]

lol, I just seem to get depressed a lot, When Im with all my friends and all, they all have Girls. Then I just sit and think that there is something wrong with me =/ ..........lol Emo right?


Don't your friend's GFs have friends they can hook you up with? It's all about networking. ;)

[wzcx]

That's key, Lurk. Girls who are your friends will hook you up with other girls. Guys will not. Make some female friends, or hang out a lot more with your current female friends.

[ChuckP]

That's key, Lurk. Girls who are your friends will hook you up with other girls. Guys will not. Make some female friends, or hang out a lot more with your current female friends.

QFT
Listen to this guy!

[zerosixMR]

That's key, Lurk. Girls who are your friends will hook you up with other girls. Guys will not. Make some female friends, or hang out a lot more with your current female friends.


Yeah, I don't remember the last time one of my boys said "Bro, I got this friend who's a girl who you just HAVE to meet, I think you two would like eachother"

No. Just doesn't happen.

[kinetics]

+1^ i know i wouldn't...i'll probably tap it first then pass it on! :lol:

but seriously though...i've always found these guides for myself to be pretty successful

1. be confident...not cocky! CONFIDENT!
2. no girl is never too good for you! it's just a matter of how you can grab her interest within the first 30 seconds of your approach!
3. don't be desperate...if they give you the cold shoulder! MOVE ON! don't try and restart the conversation...you F$*CKED UP!
4. if in a social gathering (club/parties/weddings/bars/etc...) go around the room and socialize...don't spend too much time with one girl...if the conversation is going well, find the balls to excuse yourself and go and meet other girls...since you've made a good impression...you can always go back to that one at the end of the night!
5. have a "wingman"...someone who can build you up or take away the girl's "evil friend" (the one who always takes her friend away from you because no one is talking to her because she so damn ugly!)

A few things I've learned in the bar/club scene...

1. NEVER buy any girl a drink...unless she's a friend or something
2. NEVER go alone...makes you look like a loser
3. DONT just focus on one girl...go around the bar/club and meet others

[06IXMR]

yeah wingman to jump on that grenade!

[kinetics]

^ LOL

[06IXMR]

Dude if shes fat, get 2 friends to jump on that whale and tame it like a wild beast!

[dabaysevo]

I use a tranq gun on ogres.

[overdrive]

That's key, Lurk. Girls who are your friends will hook you up with other girls. Guys will not. Make some female friends, or hang out a lot more with your current female friends.


Yeah, I don't remember the last time one of my boys said "Bro, I got this friend who's a girl who you just HAVE to meet, I think you two would like eachother"

No. Just doesn't happen.


LOL! That NEVER happens. Only girls do that type of recommendation stuff...

[ChuckP]

U could always go homo...just another option to consider

[sprytsi]

NCE has plenty of available butt huggers!

[GsxEcutioner]

This proves it forreal.......I went to Quickly's in Millbrae, saw a girl come outta the Bar with some dude I guess that was trying to holler, She asked me for a Light, and I just handed it to her, Until My Homie was like "light it fool" so Right before she grabbed it from me, I lit it for her -___-, I didnt think about it......she was HOTT too, I heard her talking about GOGO Dancing..........Im a newb

[WolfLoverKriss]

NCE has plenty of available butt huggers!


yes it does

[sprytsi]

Just be prepared to make 1,000,000,000,000 mistakes before getting anything right. Don't be afraid of them saying "no" or being rejected.

:)

[wzcx]

Also, once you get a date:

GIVE HER FLOWERS ALL THE TIME.

Just do it. It costs but it pays back MANY times over what you spend. Have them delivered to her work, or whatever. One of the girls I went to Halloween parties with is dating a douche... but he buys flowers and she loves him for it. It's like cheating at the dating game, seriously.

[TougeGod7]

Also, once you get a date:

GIVE HER FLOWERS ALL THE TIME.

Just do it. It costs but it pays back MANY times over what you spend. Have them delivered to her work, or whatever. One of the girls I went to Halloween parties with is dating a douche... but he buys flowers and she loves him for it. It's like cheating at the dating game, seriously.


but if you buy her to many it loses its charm and becomes more of an annoyance and makes you look obsessed with her

[ChuckP]

^buy her sex toys..

[TougeGod7]

^buy her sex toys..


or make her one like from Burn After Reading :dumas:

[ChuckP]

homemade sex toys?!

[overdrive]

homemade sex toys?!


Hahahaha! That's ghetto and unsanitary bro.

Just go to the sex shop.

[WolfLoverKriss]

Just be prepared to make 1,000,000,000,000 mistakes before getting anything right. Don't be afraid of them saying "no" or being rejected.

:)


I have to agree with that also send her texts jus to say that you were thinking of her. Short but sweet. I always like that

[ChuckP]

^r u a girl?

[dabaysevo]

NCE wing men assemble!!! We need to help the GSXEcutioner get some tang.

[WolfLoverKriss]

^r u a girl?


yep

[dabaysevo]

^r u a girl?


And you argued with her last week too! :lol:

[ChuckP]

NCE wing men assemble!!! We need to help the GSXEcutioner get some tang.


I got 5 on it.. but i demand seconds :shock:

[WolfLoverKriss]

^r u a girl?


And you argued with her last week too! :lol:


we did? on what?

[dabaysevo]

NCE wing men assemble!!! We need to help the GSXEcutioner get some tang.


I got 5 on it.. but i demand seconds :shock:


I'll take the fat ones.

[overdrive]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.

[dabaysevo]

^r u a girl?


And you argued with her last week too! :lol:


we did? on what?


I don't know, I'm an instigator. For the sake of argument, lets say the last piece of cheesecake in the fridge.

[WolfLoverKriss]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.




like what? lol

[sprytsi]

I think if you continue to buy her flowers, then you set yourself up to ALWAYS have to buy her flowers. She will think something is wrong or be upset if you stop.

I prefer the random charm over consistency. Do something nice, different, and sweet. Letter, poem, card, e-mail, text... they all work about the same.

[WolfLoverKriss]

^r u a girl?


And you argued with her last week too! :lol:


we did? on what?


I don't know, I'm an instigator. For the sake of argument, lets say the last piece of cheesecake in the fridge.


but i'm lactose, although if its cheese cake factory cheese cake then it woulda been worth it

[ChuckP]

^r u a girl?


And you argued with her last week too! :lol:


I do not recall...

[WolfLoverKriss]

I think if you continue to buy her flowers, then you set yourself up to ALWAYS have to buy her flowers. She will think something is wrong or be upset if you stop.

I prefer the random charm over consistency. Do something nice, different, and sweet. Letter, poem, card, e-mail, text... they all work about the same.

I do kinda agree. My man hasn't bought me flowers in 4 years and it makes me sad, hence a divorce comming on.... not jus for the flowers though

[ChuckP]

^r u a girl?


And you argued with her last week too! :lol:


we did? on what?


Prolly about my questionable love making techniques.

[dabaysevo]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.




I say she should just show him two, one is just a tease. ;)

[WolfLoverKriss]

^r u a girl?


And you argued with her last week too! :lol:


we did? on what?


Prolly about my questionable love making techniques.


eh i wouldnt know

[ChuckP]

^r u a girl?


And you argued with her last week too! :lol:


we did? on what?


I don't know, I'm an instigator. For the sake of argument, lets say the last piece of cheesecake in the fridge.


but i'm lactose, although if its cheese cake factory cheese cake then it woulda been worth it


Wasn't me, I hate cheesecake.

[WolfLoverKriss]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.




I say she should just show him two, one is just a tease. ;)


nope you have to b special for me to show u anything ;-p

[dabaysevo]

^r u a girl?


And you argued with her last week too! :lol:


we did? on what?


Prolly about my questionable love making techniques.


Or lack thereof.

[WolfLoverKriss]

^r u a girl?


And you argued with her last week too! :lol:


we did? on what?


I don't know, I'm an instigator. For the sake of argument, lets say the last piece of cheesecake in the fridge.


but i'm lactose, although if its cheese cake factory cheese cake then it woulda been worth it


Wasn't me, I hate cheesecake.


fine pumpkin pie?

[ChuckP]

^r u a girl?


And you argued with her last week too! :lol:


we did? on what?


Prolly about my questionable love making techniques.


eh i wouldnt know


cuz you were asleep...huh?

[overdrive]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.



like what? lol


What are some of the skills you know?

I have to see your skills and evaluate them first.

[WolfLoverKriss]

^r u a girl?


And you argued with her last week too! :lol:


we did? on what?


Prolly about my questionable love making techniques.


eh i wouldnt know


cuz you were asleep...huh?


no that was ur blow up doll u were next to :-D

[dabaysevo]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.




I say she should just show him two, one is just a tease. ;)


nope you have to b special for me to show u anything ;-p


So the OP isn't special enough for you? You haven't even met him, what if he's a really nice guy? What if he's hung like a horse? Fine your loss! :D

[WolfLoverKriss]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.



like what? lol


What are some of the skills you know?

I have to see your skills and evaluate them first.


my skills are a secret ;-p

[WolfLoverKriss]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.




I say she should just show him two, one is just a tease. ;)


nope you have to b special for me to show u anything ;-p


So the OP isn't special enough for you? You haven't even met him, what if he's a really nice guy? What if he's hung like a horse? Fine your loss! :D


well i am never know huh? besides maybe i'm already trying to hook up with someone?

[overdrive]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.



like what? lol


What are some of the skills you know?

I have to see your skills and evaluate them first.


my skills are a secret ;-p


I know some of your secrets already Kriss.

So far, you have been into gangbangs and currently into DP.

Anything else I should know about?

[ChuckP]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.




I say she should just show him two, one is just a tease. ;)


nope you have to b special for me to show u anything ;-p


So the OP isn't special enough for you? You haven't even met him, what if he's a really nice guy? What if he's hung like a horse? Fine your loss! :D


well i am never know huh? besides maybe i'm already trying to hook up with someone?


Shhhh..

[dabaysevo]

Like I said, your loss! :P I'll just have to find GSX a woman that likes guys that are hung like a horse. That's what wing men are for.

[zerosixMR]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.




I say she should just show him two, one is just a tease. ;)


nope you have to b special for me to show u anything ;-p


So the OP isn't special enough for you? You haven't even met him, what if he's a really nice guy? What if he's hung like a horse? Fine your loss! :D


well i am never know huh? besides maybe i'm already trying to hook up with someone?


LOL aren't you still married?

[dabaysevo]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.




I say she should just show him two, one is just a tease. ;)


nope you have to b special for me to show u anything ;-p


So the OP isn't special enough for you? You haven't even met him, what if he's a really nice guy? What if he's hung like a horse? Fine your loss! :D


well i am never know huh? besides maybe i'm already trying to hook up with someone?


LOL aren't you still married?


Sneaky Sneaky... Shhh

[ChuckP]

Anything else I should know about?



herpes synflex type 2?

[dabaysevo]

Anything else I should know about?



herpes synflex type 2?


Her secrets, not yours dude.

[zerosixMR]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.




I say she should just show him two, one is just a tease. ;)


nope you have to b special for me to show u anything ;-p


So the OP isn't special enough for you? You haven't even met him, what if he's a really nice guy? What if he's hung like a horse? Fine your loss! :D


well i am never know huh? besides maybe i'm already trying to hook up with someone?


LOL aren't you still married?


Sneaky Sneaky... Shhh


Since this is a public forum, that information could be used in a court of law in the divorce process to help him win the argument that she was being deceitful to the marriage and rule in his favor.

Just food for thought.

[overdrive]

Anything else I should know about?



herpes synflex type 2?


Her secrets, not yours dude.


Yeah bro! Her secret not yours. I will ask yours later when I am done with Kriss. Please wait for your turn. Hahahaha! LOL...


Kriss,
GsxEcutioner seems like cool guy, so better try to do something about it if you are looking for that special someone.

Am I right GsxEcutioner??

[WolfLoverKriss]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.



like what? lol


What are some of the skills you know?

I have to see your skills and evaluate them first.


my skills are a secret ;-p


I know some of your secrets already Kriss.

So far, you have been into gangbangs and currently into DP.

Anything else I should know about?



what DL?

[WolfLoverKriss]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.




I say she should just show him two, one is just a tease. ;)


nope you have to b special for me to show u anything ;-p


So the OP isn't special enough for you? You haven't even met him, what if he's a really nice guy? What if he's hung like a horse? Fine your loss! :D


well i am never know huh? besides maybe i'm already trying to hook up with someone?


Shhhh..


haha no

[dabaysevo]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.




I say she should just show him two, one is just a tease. ;)


nope you have to b special for me to show u anything ;-p


So the OP isn't special enough for you? You haven't even met him, what if he's a really nice guy? What if he's hung like a horse? Fine your loss! :D


well i am never know huh? besides maybe i'm already trying to hook up with someone?


LOL aren't you still married?


Sneaky Sneaky... Shhh


Since this is a public forum, that information could be used in a court of law in the divorce process to help him win the argument that she was being deceitful to the marriage and rule in his favor.

Just food for thought.


Food? I'm hungry.

[WolfLoverKriss]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.




I say she should just show him two, one is just a tease. ;)


nope you have to b special for me to show u anything ;-p


So the OP isn't special enough for you? You haven't even met him, what if he's a really nice guy? What if he's hung like a horse? Fine your loss! :D


well i am never know huh? besides maybe i'm already trying to hook up with someone?


LOL aren't you still married?


Sneaky Sneaky... Shhh


actually going into the divorce direction

[WolfLoverKriss]

hey he already knows about everything

[WolfLoverKriss]

but anyways lets not talk about my screwed up marriage/divorce k?

[dabaysevo]

Triple post

[zerosixMR]

I think if you continue to buy her flowers, then you set yourself up to ALWAYS have to buy her flowers. She will think something is wrong or be upset if you stop.

I prefer the random charm over consistency. Do something nice, different, and sweet. Letter, poem, card, e-mail, text... they all work about the same.

I do kinda agree. My man hasn't bought me flowers in 4 years and it makes me sad, hence a divorce comming on.... not jus for the flowers though


You brought it up.

[WolfLoverKriss]

I think if you continue to buy her flowers, then you set yourself up to ALWAYS have to buy her flowers. She will think something is wrong or be upset if you stop.

I prefer the random charm over consistency. Do something nice, different, and sweet. Letter, poem, card, e-mail, text... they all work about the same.

I do kinda agree. My man hasn't bought me flowers in 4 years and it makes me sad, hence a divorce comming on.... not jus for the flowers though


You brought it up.

now im dropping it

[sprytsi]

I think if you continue to buy her flowers, then you set yourself up to ALWAYS have to buy her flowers. She will think something is wrong or be upset if you stop.

I prefer the random charm over consistency. Do something nice, different, and sweet. Letter, poem, card, e-mail, text... they all work about the same.

I do kinda agree. My man hasn't bought me flowers in 4 years and it makes me sad, hence a divorce comming on.... not jus for the flowers though


You brought it up.

now im dropping it


I used to be a paralegal in a family law office... divorce what?

[WolfLoverKriss]

soar topic

[ChuckP]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?

[dabaysevo]

:lol: Six members viewing this thread.

[overdrive]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.



like what? lol


What are some of the skills you know?

I have to see your skills and evaluate them first.


my skills are a secret ;-p


I know some of your secrets already Kriss.

So far, you have been into gangbangs and currently into DP.

Anything else I should know about?



what DL?


DL = Double licking??

Damn Kriss, I didn't know you always brought a friend.

You have a great talent indeed!

[WolfLoverKriss]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?

he's in afganastan

[WolfLoverKriss]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.



like what? lol


What are some of the skills you know?

I have to see your skills and evaluate them first.


my skills are a secret ;-p


I know some of your secrets already Kriss.

So far, you have been into gangbangs and currently into DP.

Anything else I should know about?



what DL?


DL = Double licking??

Damn Kriss, I didn't know you always brought a friend.

You have a great talent indeed!




and no

[zerosixMR]

http://www.crownvic.net/cowman/spelling.jpg

[WolfLoverKriss]

http://www.crownvic.net/cowman/spelling.jpg


ya i can't spell for crap

[zerosixMR]

That's sad. This quick reply thing has a button labeled "Spell Check"

[overdrive]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?


:shock:

Hmmm Chuck, you seem interested in giving it...

[sprytsi]

holy shit, it does have a spel chek

[WolfLoverKriss]

i know shut up, i jus forgot to use it

[dabaysevo]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?

he's in afganastan


Webcam? ;)

[overdrive]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?

he's in afganastan


Webcam? ;)


+1!

dabays d man!

[WolfLoverKriss]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?


:shock:

Hmmm, are you interested in giving it?


common I really dont wanna talk about my sex life, it hasn't existed since Dec anyways

[dabaysevo]

So.............................. when are we going to a club to help GSX meet some women?

[ChuckP]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?


:shock:

Hmmm Chuck, you seem interested in giving it...


Correct. Bend over.

[WolfLoverKriss]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?

he's in afganastan


Webcam? ;)


+1!

dabays d man!


no internet sex guys

[overdrive]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?


:shock:

Hmmm, are you interested in giving it?


common I really dont wanna talk about my sex life, it hasn't existed since Dec anyways


Of last year???

[zerosixMR]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?


:shock:

Hmmm, are you interested in giving it?


common I really dont wanna talk about my sex life, it hasn't existed since Dec anyways



Common is on these forums?

http://media.canada.com/8975269b-0529-4353-a446-596d133824d2/SUN0730%20Common.jpg

[dabaysevo]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?


:shock:

Hmmm Chuck, you seem interested in giving it...


Correct. Bend over.


You too, man train.

[WolfLoverKriss]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?


:shock:

Hmmm, are you interested in giving it?


common I really dont wanna talk about my sex life, it hasn't existed since Dec anyways


Of last year???

well considering we're not in dec....ya duh

[dabaysevo]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?


:shock:

Hmmm, are you interested in giving it?


common I really dont wanna talk about my sex life, it hasn't existed since Dec anyways


Of last year???


No from next month, you ass.

[overdrive]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?

he's in afganastan


Webcam? ;)


+1!

dabays d man!


no internet sex guys


Hey hey. What do you think of us?? We're just trying to help our brother GsxEcutioner here...

[WolfLoverKriss]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?


:shock:

Hmmm Chuck, you seem interested in giving it...


Correct. Bend over.


You too, man train.


wow

[dabaysevo]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?


:shock:

Hmmm, are you interested in giving it?


common I really dont wanna talk about my sex life, it hasn't existed since Dec anyways



Common is on these forums?

http://media.canada.com/8975269b-0529-4353-a446-596d133824d2/SUN0730%20Common.jpg


I want an autograph.

[WolfLoverKriss]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?

he's in afganastan


Webcam? ;)


+1!

dabays d man!


no internet sex guys


Hey hey. What do you think of us?? We're just trying to help our brother GsxEcutioner here...


lol jus give him some porn then

[sprytsi]

stop trying to hit on the married woman, even if she is having problems.

[overdrive]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?


:shock:

Hmmm, are you interested in giving it?


common I really dont wanna talk about my sex life, it hasn't existed since Dec anyways


Of last year???

well considering we're not in dec....ya duh


Shit, that is a LOOOONG ass time Kriss.

What have you been doing to release that sexual tension of yous?

dabays, I want Common's autograph as well.

[dabaysevo]

stop trying to hit on the married woman, even if she is having problems.


You hit on me all the time and you're married... w/kids!

[WolfLoverKriss]

stop trying to hit on the married woman, even if she is having problems.


i know its kinda low, thnx for sticking up for me *hug*

[WolfLoverKriss]

soar topic


Do you still give him any?


:shock:

Hmmm, are you interested in giving it?


common I really dont wanna talk about my sex life, it hasn't existed since Dec anyways


Of last year???

well considering we're not in dec....ya duh


Shit, that is a LOOOONG ass time Kriss.

What have you been doing to release that sexual tension of yous?

dabays, I want Common's autograph as well.


you'll never know

[zerosixMR]

stop trying to hit on the married woman, even if she is having problems.


You hit on me all the time and you're married... w/kids!


I witnessed such events.

[dabaysevo]

http://www.turbogadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/ohmibod-ipod.jpg

[overdrive]

stop trying to hit on the married woman, even if she is having problems.


Married woman?? :shock:

Am I missing something here? :methods4:

[zerosixMR]

stop trying to hit on the married woman, even if she is having problems.


Married woman?? :shock:

Am I missing something here? :methods4:


Kriss is still married.

[WolfLoverKriss]

but for how long i wonder....

[overdrive]

stop trying to hit on the married woman, even if she is having problems.


Married woman?? :shock:

Am I missing something here? :methods4:


Kriss is still married.


I just read a few pages back. She is still married.

My apologies to you Kriss.

I'm really sorry for being an ass.

[zerosixMR]

but for how long i wonder....


:lol:

[zerosixMR]

Kriss, you should teach GsxEcutioner a thing or two.




I say she should just show him two, one is just a tease. ;)


nope you have to b special for me to show u anything ;-p


So the OP isn't special enough for you? You haven't even met him, what if he's a really nice guy? What if he's hung like a horse? Fine your loss! :D


well i am never know huh? besides maybe i'm already trying to hook up with someone?



:lol: :lol: :lol:

[sprytsi]

stop trying to hit on the married woman, even if she is having problems.


You hit on me all the time and you're married... w/kids!


My wife is fine with me hitting on men, even boys like you ;)

[WolfLoverKriss]

stop trying to hit on the married woman, even if she is having problems.


Married woman?? :shock:

Am I missing something here? :methods4:


Kriss is still married.


I just read a few pages back. She is still married.

My apologies to you Kriss.

I'm really sorry for being an ass.


it's alright apology excepted. I can only assume ur not like that :-)

[WolfLoverKriss]

stop trying to hit on the married woman, even if she is having problems.


You hit on me all the time and you're married... w/kids!


My wife is fine with me hitting on men, even boys like you ;)

she prob thinks its hot

[dabaysevo]

stop trying to hit on the married woman, even if she is having problems.


You hit on me all the time and you're married... w/kids!


My wife is fine with me hitting on men, even boys like you ;)


Boy? I'm all man hooker.

[evoredy]

lol, I just seem to get depressed a lot, When Im with all my friends and all, they all have Girls. Then I just sit and think that there is something wrong with me =/ ..........lol Emo right?



do u cut?


wtf bwahahahahahahaaahahaaha! at least i got something from this thread. GSX, hurry up and off youself...there are powermod discussions and more tech stuff to focus on. haha j/k

[ChuckP]

^razor blades FTW!

[WolfLoverKriss]

btw guys i hope you know i was jk about trying to get with someone else

[ChuckP]

btw guys i hope you know i was jk about trying to get with someone else


we could care less who u let hit it

[dabaysevo]

lol

[WolfLoverKriss]

btw guys i hope you know i was jk about trying to get with someone else


we could care less who u let hit it


gzzzzz guys im not a slut

[ChuckP]

btw guys i hope you know i was jk about trying to get with someone else


we could care less who u let hit it


gzzzzz guys im not a slut


Why not?

[zerosixMR]

btw guys i hope you know i was jk about trying to get with someone else


we could care less who u let hit it


gzzzzz guys im not a slut


Why not?


lol!

[GsxEcutioner]

Like I said, your loss! :P I'll just have to find GSX a woman that likes guys that are hung like a horse. That's what wing men are for.


lol Thanks, Drinks are on me =P

[GsxEcutioner]

Anything else I should know about?



herpes synflex type 2?


Her secrets, not yours dude.


Yeah bro! Her secret not yours. I will ask yours later when I am done with Kriss. Please wait for your turn. Hahahaha! LOL...


Kriss,
GsxEcutioner seems like cool guy, so better try to do something about it if you are looking for that special someone.

Am I right GsxEcutioner??




For Sure :thumbsup:

[06IXMR]

kill yourself with miss wolf, chuck p, john, zordon, and the rest of the useless posters in here. I'll ask my homie from target for a group buy on blades.

[sprytsi]

^ you can get discounts at Target?

Even when I was an employee, they didn't really give a discount.

[dabaysevo]

kill yourself with miss wolf, chuck p, john, zordon, and the rest of the useless posters in here. I'll ask my homie from target for a group buy on blades.


Shut up, just cause you and ricer Paul are a happy couple doesn't mean other people aren't allowed to find happiness too.

[ChuckP]

kill yourself with miss wolf, chuck p, john, zordon, and the rest of the useless posters in here. I'll ask my homie from target for a group buy on blades.


Can't we just borrow your blades?

[dabaysevo]

Well seeing that he put himself on the list of useless postwhores, I figure he doesn't have any blades.

[06IXMR]

Haha.. it was 2am and I was bored, and yeah they do give a 15% discount at target..well my friend gets it. LOL

[ChuckP]

Rusty exacto knives FTW!

[GsxEcutioner]

I resorted to Craigslist, and shit........hmmm maybe? or pathetic?

[peter]

definately pathetic. do you really want to meet a girl on craigslist? how are you gonna tell everyone how you met her? and a girl that's ON craigslist, now thats gotta tell you somethin.

what you need to do is go out with the guys. clubs, bars, etc.. go up to a girl and buy her a drink then get to know her. bam, you built a relationship right there.

or even at school or work. ask for some help or ask a question to some girls. you built a relationship right there also.

main point is, you gotta suck it up and approach the girl. if you cant do that, then i cant help you

[kinetics]

^+1 on strapping a bair of balls...and just go up to her! the worst thing she could do is say no...you're not going to die from that! LOL

but make sure you know how to open up a conversation without looking desperate...make it look like you're just there to make conversation

i wouldn't suggest buying her a drink though...make her earn it!

[GsxEcutioner]

Im Not old enough to buy drinks =/, and I don't currently go to school, and I don't club......

[kinetics]

dude seriously....you're 20!
trust me when i say this...you have A LOT of time to find a girl
go and enjoy being single while you can...sometimes it comes to you
when you are not looking for it and when you least expect it
so just go with the flow!

[GsxEcutioner]

I guess, I'll go with that ^^^,

[TougeGod7]

dude your not even 21 and your that desperate!!! sorry to be an ass but just sack up and talk to chicks its really not that hard, all you have to do is stop caring about what girls think about u and do what you want, go out, anything to make u happy that also involves other ppl cuz staying home all day is not going to cut it and chicks don't want to be with guys that aren't happy or have problems cuz girls have enough problems on their own to deal with and the last thing that they want is to have to deal with your problems too.

so lets just recap everything really quickly:
1. sack up
2. talk to girls
3. don't care what they think about u
4. go out and have fun
5. STOP PUTTING THE PUSSY ON THAT FUCKING PETISTOOL

[wzcx]

PETISTOOL???
http://www.thecoppermare.com/i/stools/dog-andpony-stool.gif

[dabaysevo]

^Very nice, but I don't see the one with the pussy cat on it. Now that would have been awesome.

[wzcx]

Well he said to STOP so i put the alternatives on the petistool.

[TougeGod7]

PETISTOOL???
http://www.thecoppermare.com/i/stools/dog-andpony-stool.gif


there you go!!! you Sr know what ur doing :thumbsup:

[06IXMR]

yeah dude, CL is for fun only, your not ganna find the love of your life there, maybe on E14 or some strippers, they'll make you fall in love in no time.

[GsxEcutioner]

yeah dude, CL is for fun only, your not ganna find the love of your life there, maybe on E14 or some strippers, they'll make you fall in love in no time.


I know people on E14. not funny -__-, Most of my homies are from Oakland.....

[06IXMR]

E14 hookers are your friends? I know people on E14 also.

[GsxEcutioner]

uhm the asian ones, are friends of friends......lol

[06IXMR]

Can you get a discount?

[willitas34]

go to the gym, work out and get beefcake and watch how much attention you get :)

[GsxEcutioner]

aha Ive thought about that, and then realized, hmm I dont have the motivation to keep up with the gym...

[overdrive]

aha Ive thought about that, and then realized, hmm I dont have the motivation to keep up with the gym...


You just have to try bro.

Results = Very rewarding!

[GsxEcutioner]

Deng Maybe I should have said wassup to ya'll last night at the meet, ahaha, but you all probably saw me, Still Women-less.....

[Ben]

dude your not even 21 and your that desperate!!! sorry to be an ass but just sack up and talk to chicks its really not that hard, all you have to do is stop caring about what girls think about u and do what you want, go out, anything to make u happy that also involves other ppl cuz staying home all day is not going to cut it and chicks don't want to be with guys that aren't happy or have problems cuz girls have enough problems on their own to deal with and the last thing that they want is to have to deal with your problems too.

so lets just recap everything really quickly:
1. sack up
2. talk to girls
3. don't care what they think about u
4. go out and have fun
5. STOP PUTTING THE PUSSY ON THAT FUCKING PETISTOOL

Also add learning to spell to that list ;)

[06IXMR]

jack off with sand paper, it'll show them whats up!

Yeah, don't be afraid, and don't be a fallower. Girls see right through that and I've asked LOL. Just have fun since you know in one area, look at all the hot girls and take your pick, if it doesn't work move on. Remember if it doesn't work the first time, doesn't mean it won't work the 2nd.

[ChuckP]

I can't believe this thread is still going. Just get a hooker and be done with it.

[PANGES]

I can't believe this thread is still going. Just get a hooker and be done with it.

I currently have Ben in stock and on clearance. PM me for special holiday pricing! :)

[rKamfar]

Ooh half pricing. Very tempting! Is he available on the 26th?

[PANGES]

Ooh half pricing. Very tempting! Is he available on the 26th?

ooo... That's the day after xmas. Usually I give him the day off on the 12/26, because he's too tired out after the 25th. How about the 27th?

[rKamfar]

Hmm...early morning? All I have open for a while!

[GsxEcutioner]

Im finally on a start, today some girl at work was Taking pictures of me 0_o, I was like WTF!? So I started to talk to her and chyea we will see what will happen from there.

[ChuckP]

^ Did you beat yet?

[PANGES]

Im finally on a start, today some girl at work was Taking pictures of me 0_o, I was like WTF!? So I started to talk to her and chyea we will see what will happen from there.

I think I'd be a little creeped out if someone I didn't know was taking pictures of me. lol. Watch, if you go to her house, she's going to have a whole mantel in her closet that's full of pictures of you with goat's blood smeared on them.

BTW: Did you know if you show interest in someone and they know it, their chances of returning that interest increases by 30-60%?? That's some crazy shit. This is proven, seeing how you showed no interest in the girl taking pictures until she showed some interest in you first.

[Mister_Pants]

Okay I'll admit I haven't read the entire thread (23 pages is an awful lot just to hear about all of the OP's failed attempts at dating and meeting girls in general) but I will give you a piece of advice that I think will really help you out, get a wingman. A good wingman (especially one who can already "get girls") will do wonders for your confidence and ultimatly you will learn how to do it on your own. On the first page it sounded more like you wanted a serious relationship but maybe what you need is to just go out and figure out what kind of a girl suits you before you jump into a realtionship. Hell your 20, go out and have some fun.

Conclusion : get a wingman.

[GsxEcutioner]

I think I'd be a little creeped out if someone I didn't know was taking pictures of me. lol. Watch, if you go to her house, she's going to have a whole mantel in her closet that's full of pictures of you with goat's blood smeared on them.

BTW: Did you know if you show interest in someone and they know it, their chances of returning that interest increases by 30-60%?? That's some crazy shit. This is proven, seeing how you showed no interest in the girl taking pictures until she showed some interest in you first.

yha I didnt notice that, nor did I know about it aha, hmmmm....

[GsxEcutioner]

Okay I'll admit I haven't read the entire thread (23 pages is an awful lot just to hear about all of the OP's failed attempts at dating and meeting girls in general) but I will give you a piece of advice that I think will really help you out, get a wingman. A good wingman (especially one who can already "get girls") will do wonders for your confidence and ultimatly you will learn how to do it on your own. On the first page it sounded more like you wanted a serious relationship but maybe what you need is to just go out and figure out what kind of a girl suits you before you jump into a realtionship. Hell your 20, go out and have some fun.

Conclusion : get a wingman.


mmm I cant have a wingman, Like i said before somewhere, all my homies all have girls and their girls WONT let them do it..

[GsxEcutioner]

Im in Vegas, I know for a fact I wil NEVER see any of these women again, what Should I do??? lol My cousin is NOT a good wingman, all he does is CockBlock and my younger brother, well hes 16, still got a baby face, Geez what to do?

[mtsevovii]

Im in Vegas, I know for a fact I wil NEVER see any of these women again, what Should I do??? lol My cousin is NOT a good wingman, all he does is CockBlock and my younger brother, well hes 16, still got a baby face, Geez what to do?


go for it!!!

what makes you so sure youd never see them again? you need to make them chase you after you leave ;)

[Ben]

mmm I cant have a wingman, Like i said before somewhere, all my homies all have girls and their girls WONT let them do it..

You don't need a wingman. You can be a lone gunman with two balls blazin'.

[willitas34]

Im in Vegas, I know for a fact I wil NEVER see any of these women again, what Should I do??? lol My cousin is NOT a good wingman, all he does is CockBlock and my younger brother, well hes 16, still got a baby face, Geez what to do?

dude just go for it... what do you REALLY have to lose? Like you stated, you will more than likely NEVER see these woman again so who gives a fuck if they turn you down? Hey, one of them might just pull your pants down right then and there :afro:

[nebolic]

wow there buddy, you have the wrong definition of a wingman. A good wingman isn't there to pick up your target's girlfriends and fuck them. A good wingman can be single or in a relationship. Let me explain to you how the game is worked, you find a girl, usually the girl is not alone, she is surrounded by a pack of ugly ass looking girls who feel sorry for themselves because they won't ever be picked up by any decent guy and therefore they feel that any man is evil and prevents any male species from approaching her and her friends.

Typically the group mixup of these girls is
target girl = usually the finest looking one in the group, the one you want to bang
1-3 decent looking girls
3-8 ugly ass looking chicks

the 1-3 decent looking girls in the group won't cock block you, its the 3-8 ugly ass looking chicks that will put up the great wall of cock block.

Your wingman's duty is as follows:
He IS THE BAIT for the rest of the chicks in the group. His primarily role is to let the other 3-8 ugly ass chick THINK THEY HAVE a shot at a decent guy and his role is to distract them, talk to them, and basically let them think his cock is available and he draws their attention away, pulls them from the group so YOU have a chance in closing into your target for some one on one interaction.

Does not matter if your wingman is single or not, he does not have to fuck her friends, he just needs to act like he's available to draw the cock block fire away from you.

See, if your friends are good friends, they'll do that for you, it's not asking them to sacrifice their body and get fucked by ugly ass chicks.

Simple game really. Let me know if you want me to show your buddies how it's done.

Also, slap your cousin in the face if he cock blocks again, or better yet whip out your dick and dickslap him.

nebo

[mtsevovii]

hahaha

[GsxEcutioner]

well, failed!, back to square one, IDK my cousin F'd ish up, forreal.........anyways ill try the whole wingman thing again.......

[dabaysevo]

You don't need a wingman. You can be a lone gunman with two balls blazin'.

Balls blazin? Is that what you get after going bareback with that one chick with the cigarette burns on her wrists?

[dabaysevo]

wow there buddy, you have the wrong definition of a wingman. A good wingman isn't there to pick up your target's girlfriends and fuck them. A good wingman can be single or in a relationship. Let me explain to you how the game is worked, you find a girl, usually the girl is not alone, she is surrounded by a pack of ugly ass looking girls who feel sorry for themselves because they won't ever be picked up by any decent guy and therefore they feel that any man is evil and prevents any male species from approaching her and her friends.

Typically the group mixup of these girls is
target girl = usually the finest looking one in the group, the one you want to bang
1-3 decent looking girls
3-8 ugly ass looking chicks

the 1-3 decent looking girls in the group won't cock block you, its the 3-8 ugly ass looking chicks that will put up the great wall of cock block.

Your wingman's duty is as follows:
He IS THE BAIT for the rest of the chicks in the group. His primarily role is to let the other 3-8 ugly ass chick THINK THEY HAVE a shot at a decent guy and his role is to distract them, talk to them, and basically let them think his cock is available and he draws their attention away, pulls them from the group so YOU have a chance in closing into your target for some one on one interaction.

Does not matter if your wingman is single or not, he does not have to fuck her friends, he just needs to act like he's available to draw the cock block fire away from you.

See, if your friends are good friends, they'll do that for you, it's not asking them to sacrifice their body and get fucked by ugly ass chicks.

Simple game really. Let me know if you want me to show your buddies how it's done.

Also, slap your cousin in the face if he cock blocks again, or better yet whip out your dick and dickslap him.

nebo


THIS!!!

Other thing is that you have to have more confidence when talking to girls bro. What's the point to having the wingman pulling flanking maneuvers on the fuggos if you can't even drop game on the manatees?

First thing's first, how quickly can you make friends with girls? If you can't make friends in less then 10 minutes with any girl, then you're asking for disaster when you try to swoop on that good looking girl you have your eye on. They don't bite, just start talking.

[GsxEcutioner]

Well whats new with me, hmmm my friend introduced me to his co worker, She was shy at first , then i got her into my car and we talked for a lil bit, she seemed cool, ,my friend ended up driving her home because they live near each other, he called me after and said that she wanted me to have her number and she thought I was Cute, Cool, and a she liked my Gvr4 lol.....today I asked her to come out, she said ok only if our friend can come, I called him and told him i wanted to take her out, well he said ok and he lied to her saying that he will meet us up later,......I picked her up at home, and brought her out to get Bubble tea, then we were talking somemore, later on we met up with all my homies at gellert, then her and I talked somemore, then somehow we ended up at Twin Peaks, got outta the car, looked at the clear sky, talked SOMEMORE, then outta no where we eneded up taking market street to the pier and then to the marina safeway and crissy fields, walked along the water and talked AGAIN, finally she got tired so i dropped her off, it seemed to me that she had a nice time, I did, and at first she kept asking me where our friend was, and I called him, he didnt answer, I told her that, and shes like " Fuck him then" then laughed so I was like " Ok we can go on our own adventures" and she was hella enthusiatic when she said Ok lol. She said it was fun, and she can get used to my lifestyle blah blah, idk, shes kinda Fobby ahaha, shes cool, she been here for 8 years after moving from BeiiJing.
-Shane

[bluevo79]

Too much drama! come on guys!:shocked:

[GsxEcutioner]

ugh, as of the first two days my friend told me that shes not sure if shes interested in me because shes not sure if I am her type or not , Now what?.............

[ChuckP]

^ Chloroform

[Ben]

^ Chloroform

You and I should go out scouting for victims...I mean women.

[GsxEcutioner]

0_o^^^^?????

[ChuckP]

You and I should go out scouting for victims...I mean women.

Had no idea you shared the same interests...

[TcJayLee]

ROOfY coladas?

[GsxEcutioner]

yha, I was with her last night til, 4 am, but I felt bad because she has work this morning at 9 -___-, but I asked her if she wanted to go home and she said nope.......

[GsxEcutioner]

plus shes coming out tonight, i gotta pick her up.....I hope its going well......

[OreOs]

shane,... i love you and all.,. but you have no game because you have no evo... lol jk... brandon gets more game than you ahahahahh dont worry. im sad and single too... damn an i have an evo... wtf?

[Ben]

plus shes coming out tonight, i gotta pick her up.....I hope its going well......

Yay making progress!

[stockIX]

Yeah, sounds like it's time to make a move, dooo. If you miss this opp she'll think you're a wuss. Like Nike said, just do it! It'll probably go well; if it don't, it wasn't gonna go anywhere anyways. Fingers crossed, bro!

[GsxEcutioner]

Theres a story, well I picked her up, we ended up hanging out with my friends, went here there blah blah, at 1 am I asked if she wanted to go to the city. she was said ok, but I asked her if shes sure cuz she got work at 9 30 and it was hella late already, she said yes, so we went to Twin Peaks, but she was tired so She slept in my car(I gave her my jacket to wear to keep warm), I went outside smoked a cigarette, then after that my brothers called me, and it was about 2 am, and I decided to meet them up (mind you all this was still talking), she woke up when I got back in the car, she asked me where we were going, I told her TI, and she said ok, then I asked if she wanted to or does she wanna go home, but Nope she replied with yes =P, we went out there met up with all the brothers, but she wanted to stay in the car, and she told me to go out and hang out with my brothers and I told her I was ok and I would stay with her, but she insisted so I got out, she met my brothers, then from TI we went to Ocean Beach safeway.......Yha yha cruising, She seemed pretty excited since she doesnt do much on weekends or any day for that matter. after safeway it was 4 am So I went to drop her off, ..................Lame and all yes yes.......... I talked to my boy the next day and he told me shes not sure, shes got mixed feelings between me and some other dude..........Dunno......................=/