NorCalEvo WHP/TQ roll call

[SJCoruja]

OK, seems like there is some interest in tracking the HP numbers on the boards. I know we had a poll before about 300whp and how much more people wanted, but thought it would be cool to track current HP now with mods.

This WILL NOT be a pissing contest or fights about dynos, tuning, etc. I am only looking to have a thread (maybe sticky) that can keep track of the power everyone is putting out. I think it may be useful for people to have one place to look for estimates on power based on mods. Also, a little FRIENDLY comparison can be inspiring to keep on modding! LOL :)

I will keep the first post updated with the list. For now, let's only do 275whp or over and only on 91 octane. That should make this a decent comparison of safe, reliable mods/tunes of which many are daily drivers. If there really is enough (or any) interest, I can keep track of 100 octane and up.


http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTI2MTM3MTZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg

[SJCoruja]

300whp/280wtq 91oct Gruppe-s mustang dyno (technically 299.8, but I have a cat so I get to round up. :P )

Power Mods:

ProStreet 264/272 cams
ProStreet cam gears set at 0/0 (for now lol)
ProStreet 3" Downpipe
Tubular O2 housing
Helix HFC
Greddy Ti catback
MBC
720cc injectors
Walboro Fuel Pump
Ecutek flash
MR BOV
Evo IX Turbo
Stock Intercooler / IC pipes

http://my.prostreetonline.com/album/SJCoruja/Dyno215.jpg

[Dr. Evo]

Good thread. I think they should be formatted like your second post, with mods listed, but also list the year.

[SJCoruja]

Pulled the rest of the "big 5" from other threads :) If anyone minds the cut n paste PM me and I'll take it off.

Earlyapex
301whp/287wtq 91oct - Gruppe-s mustang dyno

Power Mods:
Denso 720cc injectors
HKS 272/272 cams
HKS cam gears set at +1/-1
Espelier 2.75" Downpipe
Vishnu Signature catback
RRE rally cat
MBC
Walboro Fuel Pump
ECU+
MR BOV
Stock Turbo / Intercooler / IC pipes
Tune: CareBear™ Tuning and associates

-----------------------------------------------

L84AD8
303whp/311tq

Power Modz:
FPWR
TBE w/HFC + 02
750cc + FP
272s + CG's
GFB BOV
MBC
Ecutek Tune

--------------------------------------------

Got Boost
305whp 275wtq 91 octane Full Function Mustang Dyno

MODS:
WORKS Turbo-back & throttle body
RRE rally cat
HKS 272 @ 0/0
NISEI intercooler with pipes & mini battery
AEM ems(speed density) & 3"dryflow filter
RC 750cc
TiAL 50mm blow off valve
WLBRO 255lph

-------------------------------------------------

reglaranang
293whp/297wtq - EIPs Mustang dyno

[earlyapex]

Even better info to add (if known) would also be AFR (up top and mid range) and also peak timing if possible.

I think both those items are very good information for 91 octane tunes.

Also, either linking, attaching or posting inline the actual dyno graphs so people can see the power curves would be great too.

So like:

Earlyapex------301 / 287 - 11.1 AFR - 19 degrees peak - Gruppe-S dyno

[Bernardio]

You should add the model year as well. I'm not quite at the dyno number posting threshold of 275whp yet, but I'm interested in getting there :twisted:

[earlyapex]

anyway to have the thread owned by one person so no posts can be made to muck it up? There can be a seperate discussion thread for it however for people that have questions and thoughts...

I know marshell made a thread about his car build up that could only be added to by him..

Since I spend way too much time on these boards I could be the owner. I promise to make it an information list only. :wink:

[SJCoruja]

More than happy to run that thread, but not sure how to set it up...mods?

[earlyapex]

Mister SJC,

Do you have AIM or only YIM?

[SJCoruja]

Only YIM here at work

[spoolin]

03 GSR....
278WHP
270.3 TRQ
SHIVS DD dyno

mods listed below

[earlyapex]

You can round up, I was just pulling your chain. :wink:

[SJCoruja]

You can round up, I was just pulling your chain. :wink: LOL Nah, keeping me honest and inspiring me for a test pipe...

[mygsx]

Does my thread count up there? 03' @23 psi FF MD & Shi'vs DD/ 11.2 ,11.3 AFR
http://www.norcalevo.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9114

[SJCoruja]

Updated the list - keep it coming!

[gOt BoOsT]

'05 mR peak a/f 10.8...not exactly sure of peak timing i have to look @ my map, but i know it's 20+ degrees 8)

[SJCoruja]

Updated again...anyone else? I thought there was a lot more in the 275ish area.

[EVO GRIM]

03/ 303whp / 255 tq / Full Function / 11.0 / ?? timing / 20 peak psi

I think we should add Boost also

Piper ultimate road Cams
stock cam gears
stock injectors
9.8 hot side
no cat

[Matz]

I think I had 222WHP / 230TQ on the EIP dyno. No comments, please.

[Liquid-R1]

I will get my dyno next week. My last dyno was at 263hp minus the cams on Gruppe-S. So, I should be past 275 now...

[EVILutionVIII]

I'm heading to the dyno tomorrow afternoon. I'll post the resuts then. I think my previous numbers were like 278HP/280TQ or pretty close to that.

[Lurk]

'06 EVO 9 MR
Mods: Helix turbo back (catless), Vishnu X-Flash. Everything else stock engine wise including the boost control solenoid.

WHP: 310hp on 91 octane
Wheel TQ: 310ft/lbs
Peak AFR: 11.0
Timing: unknown.

#'s are on Shiv's DD dyno.

[EVO GRIM]

'06 EVO 9 MR
Mods: Helix turbo back (catless), Vishnu X-Flash. Everything else stock engine wise including the boost control solenoid.

WHP: 310hp on 91 octane
Wheel TQ: 310ft/lbs
Peak AFR: 11.0
Timing: unknown.

#'s are on Shiv's DD dyno.

Man a guy puts $750 in a IX and puts down 310 310. Crazy

[evo_dadi]

evo4 marshall?? :wink: :lol:

[ek9_evo9]

'06 EVO 9 MR
Mods: Helix turbo back (catless), Vishnu X-Flash. Everything else stock engine wise including the boost control solenoid.

WHP: 310hp on 91 octane
Wheel TQ: 310ft/lbs
Peak AFR: 11.0
Timing: unknown.

#'s are on Shiv's DD dyno.

Man a guy puts $750 in a IV and puts down 310 310. Crazy

i hear you, damn im still waiting for the mod bug to get me =\
just broke for now lolz

[egui42]

'03 EVO VIII
Mods: Turbo XS turbo back, RRE rally cat, Works P2, Works Aperture, K&N drop in filter, 269 cams.

WHP: 295hp on 91 octane
Wheel TQ: 288ft/lbs
Peak AFR: 11.5?
Timing: unknown.
Dyno: Dynojet - Harman Motive

This should change next week, mod bug hit me again, after 1 year without doing jack to my car.

[gOt BoOsT]

i vote for mivec equiped cars to be excluded from this...doesn't seem fair to have to spend thousands of dollars & an assload of work to achieve these #'s when $1,000+mivec can get you here :roll:

[earlyapex]

'03 EVO VIII
Mods: Turbo XS turbo back, RRE rally cat, Works P2, Works Aperture, K&N drop in filter, 269 cams.

WHP: 295hp on 91 octane
Wheel TQ: 288ft/lbs
Peak AFR: 11.5?
Timing: unknown.


Don't forget the dyno type.

[earlyapex]

i vote for mivec equiped cars to be excluded from this...doesn't seem fair to have to spend thousands of dollars & an assload of work to achieve these #'s when $1,000+mivec can get you here :roll:

LOL, I think if the model is clearly shown on the line item it's fine. Everyone knows the IX's make more power with less mods.

[egui42]

'03 EVO VIII
Mods: Turbo XS turbo back, RRE rally cat, Works P2, Works Aperture, K&N drop in filter, 269 cams.

WHP: 295hp on 91 octane
Wheel TQ: 288ft/lbs
Peak AFR: 11.5?
Timing: unknown.


Don't forget the dyno type.

fixed. See above ^^^

[mattbcool]

helix turbo back(catless)
264/272 cams.
HKS cam gears set at 0
fuel pump
Vishnu Xede w/smart
294hp/290tq vishnu dyno
05 GSR

[Lurk]

i vote for mivec equiped cars to be excluded from this...doesn't seem fair to have to spend thousands of dollars & an assload of work to achieve these #'s when $1,000+mivec can get you here :roll:

Haha. Damn those IX's. :evil: :wink:

[EVO GRIM]

Edited for Evo_Fasha. Dude it was 630 in the morn. give me a break!

Any one want to trade a IX for a track car? Can you imagine a IX with flash and stock boost with those ohlins that are allowed in A stock?

[evo_dadi]

Edited for Evo_Fasha. Dude it was 630 in the morn. give me a break!


hahaha man i wake up early in the morning also :lol:

[SJCoruja]

Updated...I have added boost too if anyone wants to post up or PM me.

[EVILutionVIII]

http://www.norcalevo.net/gallery/albums/album470/JBtuned_Dyno.sized.jpg

http://www.norcalevo.net/gallery/albums/album470/dbtuned_Dyno.sized.jpg

[Matz]

Updated...I have added boost too if anyone wants to post up or PM me.

Damn, is my car making so little power that it doesn't even show up on the list? :lol:

[byt]

Damn, is my car making so little power that it doesn't even show up on the list? :lol:

Heheh I think they're looking for 275+ right now. It's ok, I'm not there yet either :(

[earlyapex]

http://www.norcalevo.net/gallery/albums/album470/JBtuned_Dyno.sized.jpg

http://www.norcalevo.net/gallery/albums/album470/dbtuned_Dyno.sized.jpg

Please tell me that is on race gas. 12.5 AFR up top. :shock:

Also, what turbo are you running that doesn't make peak trq till 4200 rpm?

Guess this means this dyno reads pretty darn high.

[EVILutionVIII]

91/100 mix, stock turbo. My first run was actually around 280HP/246TQ (i suspected a boost leak which there was) so with an adjustment, it went up to 341HP/340TQ.

[ek9_evo9]

Seems like Full Function Dynos are reading consistance -30+ from HP on their TQ.

[KevOVIII]

Since 100 octane is now being considered... here's one with meth (91+meth = ~100 octane).

05 Evo VIII
Mods at time of dyno:
- K&N drop-in panel filter
- Blitz SBC-iD boost controller
- APS blow off valve
- Buschur turbo-back
- HKS 272/272 cams
- Fidanza cam gears set at -4i/-1.5e
- Revolver valve springs and retainers
- APR head studs
- Nisei intercooler and intercooler piping
- Helix 720cc injectors
- Perrin fuel rail
- Walbro 255 lph fuel pump
- HKS DLI-II twin power ignition
- SMC alky kit with M7 nozzle
- S-AFC II
- NGK BPR8ES gapped to 0.025"
- DynoFlash custom road tune

- Innovate LM-1 and XD-1 for monitoring

The boost controller was set to 74 (about 23 psi) and gain to 14.
S-AFC II was zeroed out.
The SMC alky kit was set to start at 18 psi and max out at 28 psi.



Full Function...
296 whp, 303 tq
http://forums.evolutionm.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=82072&stc=1
Peak AFR: 10.6
Peak Boost: 23 for a split second
http://forums.evolutionm.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=82075&stc=1
Peak Timing: 16-17* :(
The runs on this dyno takes VERY long compared to Gruppe-S. Check out the number of seconds it takes to go up to 7700.


Gruppe-S:
313 whp, 325 tq
http://forums.evolutionm.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=82085&stc=1
Peak AFR: 11.04
Peak Boost: 25.6
http://forums.evolutionm.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=82084&stc=1
Peak Timing: 16-17* :(
Gruppe-S' dyno seems to load the car like how it would run in 3rd gear on the street.


Vishnu:
298 whp, 303 tq
http://forums.evolutionm.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=82165&stc=1
Peak AFR: 11 according to Shiv's dyno
http://forums.evolutionm.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=82167&stc=1
11.32 according to LM-1
http://forums.evolutionm.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=82173&stc=1
Peak Boost: 25.2
http://forums.evolutionm.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=82167&stc=1
http://forums.evolutionm.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=82173&stc=1
Peak Timing: 16-17* :(
The runs on Shiv's dyno take a VERY long time to finish as well.

[KevOVIII]

More info if you're interested:
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=178902

[Evotech8]

Here's another on 91oct.+16G+meth...

04'/317whp/335tq/gruppe-s/10.8/timing 20/25psi

mods below.

[ek9_evo9]

Here's another on 91oct.+16G+meth...

04'/317whp/335tq/gruppe-s/10.8/timing 20/25psi

mods below.
how are you getting the meth in?? intercooler spray?

[MitsuMan]

well mat you can post me up if you like but I'm getting my new turbo installed and dynoed with in the next month or so, so you'll have to update it soon.

91oct 280hp I forget the torque don't have a dyno sheet from shiv but I'm not the only one I run 24-23psi afr around 12 something
100oct I hit 320hp and again shiv's printer was not working and I havn't emailed him for my sheet

just installed the smart and I have the turbo in my trunk waiting for the install kit to arive soo I'll keep you posted

[gOt BoOsT]

alright fellas i'm going to the dyno tomorrow...hopefully i'll lay down a few more ponies since i still had a boost leak last tuning session. i'll have a race gas tune so i can provide those #'s as well :twisted:

[EFIxMR]

http://www.gruppe-s.com/Promo/wrrace.jpg

100 octane timing & boost

25 psi peak taper to 18 psi redline

mods

AEM w/ MAF tuned by me
custom 3 inch TBE
HKS 280 cams
HKS timing gears
WR TME
Hallman MBC

done in 9/20/05. learned a few new tricks, and now running a different setup. hoping to get some new number soon.

[wrx2evo8]

280.5 awhp
271.2 tq

http://my.prostreetonline.com/album/wrx2evo8/newdynopull.jpg

http://my.prostreetonline.com/album/wrx2evo8/ScannedImage.jpg

no idea how it got sized that big!

[reglaranang]

just dynoed in so cal today @ gt motorsports on a dyno jet...i put down 341 hp and 327 tq with my new exhaust setup....tomei O2 sensor housing and dp and a fujitsubo RMO1A catback exhaust and a helix hfc....everything else is the same
10.5 Hot side
Helix High flow cat
Arc Intake Box
Dejon Tool intake pipe
Turbo XS intercooler
Greddy Upper intercooler piping
Helix Lower intercooler piping
Buddy Club Cams 264/272 w/ HKS Cam Gears
Ralli Art Plug Wires
Splitfire Bridge
SARD 265 lph fuel pump
Apexi AVCR
JDM MR BOV
ECUTEK by Paul @ EIP

I had Authority SS O2 sensor housing, Espiler GT500 catback exhaust, Apexi GT downpipe and with this setup i had 293.7 hp and 297tq
Thinks its time for some injectors and a retune

[Evotech8]

SMC Alky injection kit with #7 nozzle mounted in the upper ic pipe.
Set at 15/26.



Here's another on 91oct.+16G+meth...

04'/317whp/335tq/gruppe-s/10.8/timing 20/25psi

mods below.
how are you getting the meth in?? intercooler spray?

[smack]

gruppe-s dyno

275hp/258tq chart shows 10.8afr from 4-6k then down to 10.0 by 7k
20lbs boost.
no timing on chart but from previous logs i think 17 peak.

parts on 03'
stock turbo and hotside

buschur stage 3...
intake
upper and lower i/c pipes
buschur i/c
264 hks cams
buschur exhaust w/hi flow cat and magnaflow muffler
dynaflash mail in flash

[onesicklambo]

386whp360tq tuned by harman motive
dynojet
91 pump
~22psi
60trim turbo
Utec
supporting mods
i miss it :(

[EVILutionVIII]

386whp360tq tuned by harman motive
dynojet
91 pump
~22psi
60trim turbo
Utec
supporting mods
i miss it :(

Yeah I bet, but you won't be dissapointed with the IX bro.

[stockEVO8]

334whp 330tq at TuningTechnologie DYNOJET

04gsr with 9.8turbo
HKS 264/272 cams
TBE exhaust
720 injectors, fuel pump
safc2 tuned

[GokuSSJ4]

05
272/272
cam gears -2, -2
TBE 76mm WORKS exhaust
WORKS 02 housing
Hi-flow cat
Nisei FMIC
Nisei ICPs
SAFC
Dejon MBC
Crowder valvetrain
91 octane
11.2 air fuel 21psi
340whp 300tq @TT Dyno Jet
adding a ported OEM exhaust manifold
an more tuning
trying to get my hands on an Xede/SMART to see what results can be achieve or ECU+ (i haven't decided)

[earlyapex]

So now this is a Socal thread too? :wink:

[crctslt]

I got like 800 monkey power if that helps :P

[mygsx]

So now this is a Socal thread too? :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Puahahaha
!

[LookingForPower]

can the other side of the spectrum play?? haha

this one was on 100 octane though, i made 331 on 91(i'll try to find that dyno in a min)

Gruppe-S Dyno tuned by Mike
@24 PSI, on 100 octane, with a GT35R and almost ZERO timing done to it(another shop blew the motor, so it's weak and mike didn't want to push it).

Tuned to pretty much 11.0 A/F throughout the entire powerband(dips into 10's in the upper rpms)
http://lookingforpower.net/Random/Dyno.JPG

[LookingForPower]

ahh found my pump gas tune...

[email protected] PSI, with literally ZERO timing..

Gruppe-s Dyno, tuned by mike also...

http://lookingforpower.net/Random/JohnGT35rpump.JPG

[EFIxMR]

nice work!

[GokuSSJ4]

So now this is a Socal thread too? :wink:
now it is !!! 8)

[earlyapex]

So now this is a Socal thread too? :wink:
now it is !!! 8)

Guess it's a subaru thread now too... :?

:lol:

[onesicklambo]

^ :werd:

[stockEVO8]

So now this is a Socal thread too? :wink:
now it is !!! 8)

werd... :woowoo:

[GokuSSJ4]

So now this is a Socal thread too? :wink:
now it is !!! 8)

Guess it's a subaru thread now too... :?

:lol:
bah!

[LookingForPower]

Haters :(



:lol:

[earlyapex]

also I think if people are going to be submitting non-stock turbo numbers we need to have a turbo column in the table.

[egui42]

oh yea, my boost was 19psi

[SJCoruja]

Great input, but again (for now) I am only going to track 91 octane numbers on local Evos only. Once I have a good handle on that, I will go back through this thread and add on the race gas tunes and the others. :D

[smack]

is it just me that can't see the chart on the first page anymore?

[SJCoruja]

Hmmm...looks like the hosting site is down. I'll check it out.

[EFIxMR]

what gear do you guys dyno in? there is about a 25 tq difference at 3500 rpm which tapers off about even at 4000 rpm between 3rd and 4th gears do to different spool characteristics.

[earlyapex]

I know mike @ gruppe-s dynos in 3rd.

I think most do on the evo, although I believe EIP dynos in 4th.

Which gear is showing 25wtq difference to you Andy? Less in 4th?

[EFIxMR]

the turbo spools up faster in 4th and shows more tq. is starts at about 3k and ends at 4k.

the runs in 4th when the power is 300 and below take a terribly long time.

i prefer 3rd when the power is in the 350 whp and below range.

[EFIxMR]

has anyone dynoed back to back from eip to gs?

[earlyapex]

the turbo spools up faster in 4th and shows more tq. is starts at about 3k and ends at 4k.

the runs in 4th when the power is 300 and below take a terribly long time.

i prefer 3rd when the power is in the 350 whp and below range.

agreed. 8)

[superman37r1]

Mustang Dyno @ DBTuned

301.6 HP @ 6250 RPM
307.9 TQ @ 4000 RPM

Current mods on car while still stock tune...

RNR Garrett 4" Race FMIC
AMS LICP
Helix UICP
MBC 21psi tapering to 19psi
HKS Carbon-Ti TBE
Helix HFC
HKS RS Intake

Still have the cams, cam gears, injectors to install...

[dohcvtec]

man, that is one high reading mustang dyno! Almost like dynojet.

[zyounker]

No, just a crappy operator i would assume.. mustang dynos can be fudged really easy.. notice on this one they put the cars weight at 3400lbs.. which is why you have an inflated # i bet. could be other settings as well liek the ramp up rate.

[superman37r1]

IX's with exhaust, tune and MBC were putting down 300...Check this thread and a 9 with race gas exhaust and tune put down 332HP...Wouldnt that be more if the dyno read high?...

http://www.norcalevo.net/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=2&topic=10067.75

[EvoRicer]

303.8 WHP
296.3 TQ

Mods:

- TBE
- K&N Drop in Filter
- Hallman MBC
- Maxford Exhaust Manifold

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h77/TBEvo/dannydyno2.jpg

[ek9_evo9]

303.8 WHP
296.3 TQ

Mods:

- TBE
- K&N Drop in Filter
- Hallman MBC
- Maxford Exhaust Manifold

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h77/TBEvo/dannydyno2.jpg


where was the dyno?

[EvoRicer]

^^^ DBTuned

[Full Function]

Hey guys,

i happened to notice that Abe (1stockevo) and Bob's car arent on here, they are both making well over 300 whp... does this thread only list stock turboed cars?

jerry

[EFIxMR]

i'd like to be added to the list too

[KareBearPowa]

Mustang Dyno @ DBTuned

301.6 HP @ 6250 RPM
307.9 TQ @ 4000 RPM

Current mods on car while still stock tune...

RNR Garrett 4" Race FMIC
AMS LICP
Helix UICP
MBC 21psi tapering to 19psi
HKS Carbon-Ti TBE
Helix HFC
HKS RS Intake

Still have the cams, cam gears, injectors to install...



That mustang dyno reads VERY high if you are doing over 300/300 with no tune and no cams. Your car would do about 250-260 or so on gruppe-s mustang dyno.

[KareBearPowa]

No, just a crappy operator i would assume.. mustang dynos can be fudged really easy.. notice on this one they put the cars weight at 3400lbs.. which is why you have an inflated # i bet. could be other settings as well liek the ramp up rate.


Gruppe-s mustang dyno is set to 3400 as well.

[ITR2MR]

Are you posting cars that use 91 w/ Meth or solely 91 octane - If 91 w/ meth cars are permitted I would like to see how I go about adding my car to your list - Thanks and sorrry if this question has aleady been answered somewhere throughout the post, did not have time to read through this morning

[SJCoruja]

This was originally supposed to be NorCal 275 and over on a stock(ish) 16g - Evo VIII or IX, and no meth/alc/H20 etc. It really got out of control with a whole bunch of other info.

For now, if you are all of the above, PM me or post up and I will add you to the list and update it. In the future I may either add on the more extreme numbers with unlimited mods, or start a different list.

[EFIxMR]

Thanks for the update!

[reglaranang]

update...reglaranang 317 hp 298tq

[KareBearPowa]

update...reglaranang 317 hp 298tq


year, boost , afr , timing, mods, octane, dyno?

what did you do to gain 24 peak hp?

[reglaranang]

man bryan your gonna make me look for the stuff...just for you bro shell 91 vpower, EIP mustang dyno, 23psi taper to 18psi, 11.5 afr, timing is a ? remind me to ask Paul about that
mods and sheets
http://www.norcalevo.net/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=2&topic=10220.0

opps 317.6hp and 296.1tq

[KareBearPowa]

Thanks. ;)

[reglaranang]

anything too keep you happy bryan

[CupertinoRedEvoVIII]

304.5 whp / 292 tq* 22.5 psi a/f 11.6
at EIP racing
no fuel pump

[L84AD8]

304.5 whp / 292 tq* 22.5 psi a/f 11.6
at EIP racing
no fuel pump




:shock:

[KareBearPowa]

a/f 11.6


You're insane.

[PANGES]

I got back from my dyno tune with Shiv today. It was rediculously hot out today... i think i made something like 292awhp with a TBE and drop in filter at 23psi... This was on a IX. I baselined at 253awhp on a Dyno Dynamics dyno... Shiv is gonna post up the dyno sheets on Evom.net on monday and I'll post them up over here so you guys can take a look. Do you guys think that the heat really affected the numbers that much? It was a rather small room that he kept half closed probally because he was trying to keep it was quiet as possible.

[reglaranang]

yes heat really affected my numbers today...i dynoed in april/may time frame when it was cooler and dynoed @ 318 and yesterday at EIP dyno day i pumped out only 302...heat i believe was a really big factor...and possible the clutch lol

[Bernardio]

Finally got my car retuned after adding some goodies..* :P

2003 Evo8
91 octane
boost 21lbs (spikes to 22 and drops to 18 at redline)
Shiv's DD dyno at K'Lube :?

best results:
283hp @ 6100rpm
274ftlbs @ 4650rpm

I only added 16hp and 10tq from my vishnu dyno tune last year with these changes:
- changed intake from HKS RS to Stock with K&N
- changed exhaust from HKS to Helix
- Upgraded Xede to SMART
- HP Freaks LICP
- Mitsu 10.5 Hotside
- SS Chrome O2 housing

The rest of my mods are in my sig..

graphs..
http://norcalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10524/BMir-061906_hp-tq.jpg
http://norcalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10524/BMir-061906_boost-af.jpg

[BayAreasFinest]

Here's mine 307.4 WHP on Vishnu's DD Dyno... Pls refer to link....
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=206174&page=1

[PANGES]

Here's mine 307.4 WHP on Vishnu's DD Dyno... Pls refer to link....
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=206174&page=1


How was the weather conditions when you tuned? Was it a hot day? I was tuned by shiv the other day, but made less power than you and I had a works drop in filter and a test pipe.. lol. It was freakin HOT that day though.

BTW: What'd you baseline?

[EVO GRIM]

The IX's are a different story man. Dont rub it in.

[BayAreasFinest]

it was pretty cool... that day.... I actually don't know my baseline b/c at first my car had a problem w/ not being able to build boost (bad vacuum line leading into bov.) *Once the problem was fixed the following morning Shiv just loaded an off the shelf map in to the car.... I also have an exhaust cam and cam gear in the car which probably made a slight difference






Here's mine 307.4 WHP on Vishnu's DD Dyno... Pls refer to link....
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=206174&page=1


How was the weather conditions when you tuned? Was it a hot day? I was tuned by shiv the other day, but made less power than you and I had a works drop in filter and a test pipe.. lol. It was freakin HOT that day though.

BTW: What'd you baseline?

[BayAreasFinest]

My VIII had cams, cam gears, i/c piping, i/c, fuel pump, filter, tbe w/ hfc, clutch and fly wheel this one only has an 1/8 of what that car had and makes more power.... VIII's are a great car and wouldn't have gotten my MR if I didn't lose my VIII....



The IX's are a different story man. Dont rub it in.

[racers]

05 evo
316.1 hp
297.5 tq

23 psi
EIP

[SpeedElement]

hey racers, how much hp did it take to run 11.5? awesome run btw.

[racers]

hey racers, how much hp did it take to run 11.5? awesome run btw.


thanks
On the race gas tune I think it was 355 hp

[mygsx]

a/f 11.6


You're insane.

Is that AFR actually safe on 91 peepee @ 20+psi???

[KareBearPowa]

a/f 11.6


You're insane.

Is that actually safe on 91 peepee @ 20+psi???


Depends on timing, boost.

[evo_dadi]

i run 22psi on 91 peepee ;) lol

[PANGES]

I'm running 23psi on 91 octane...

[rodw]

I spike to 1.65bar (~24psi) sometimes on 91 :D

[mygsx]

Im running 23 psi as well but the thing i was concerned about was their afrs being that high
but thanks for clarifying Bryan

[mygsx]

Anyone with those mid 11.5/6 Afr's Can you guys post up what your EGT's are too?

[SpeedElement]

i dont think there is much to gain running 91 octane and leaning it to mid 11's. 91 octane tuning is all about 11.0, timing, and boost.

[Lurk]

Yep I was running 11.0 AFR, 24psi and LOTS of timing advance.

[KareBearPowa]

and LOTS of timing advance.


Do share.

[wrx2evo8]

mine is an 03 not 05.. :)

[GraphiteMRix]

i have a friend that we name the dik whos car has no cams just mbc waste gate and turbo back exhaust drop in filter and larger intercooler. he just got tuned at eip 292bhp and 291.3 torque and the shop temp was 99 degrees.oh 22psi w/ 11.3 afr

[KareBearPowa]

i have a friend that we name the dik whos car has no cams just mbc waste gate and turbo back exhaust drop in filter and larger intercooler. he just got tuned at eip 292bhp and 291.3 torque and the shop temp was 99 degrees.oh 22psi w/ 11.3 afr


An IX correct? That's believable.

[mygsx]

Bryan your sig's too hilarious! :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Matz]

Bryan your sig's too hilarious! :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I can't believe I just changed my profile so I could read that sig.

[EVO GRIM]

Hey lets keep on topic here.

Vishnu stage 2 gt3076r. SHiv's custom conservative hot track tune 91oct and 100. Oh and I added 680 injectors from my previous mods.


21psi on 91 and 25psi on 100

max was 373/285 and 340/260


http://norcalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10378/DSC01616.JPG

[wilson1]

Marshall,

what kind of specs on those pipers?

[bdking57]

03 280/281 at EIP with 264s..car pulls hard still with the wimpy 03 turbo.

[byt]

i have a friend that we name the dik whos car has no cams just mbc waste gate and turbo back exhaust drop in filter and larger intercooler. he just got tuned at eip 292bhp and 291.3 torque and the shop temp was 99 degrees.oh 22psi w/ 11.3 afr


An IX correct? That's believable.


Actually, I believe "the dik" has an 8. Freak numbers according to Paul @ EIP...

[KareBearPowa]

If it was an 8, I don't believe it for one second with no cams. Sorry.

[ek9_evo9]

If it was an 8, I don't believe it for one second with no cams. Sorry.


+1 unless freak car as in mitsu accidently put a 9 engine on an 8 chasis

[wilson1]

If it was an 8, I don't believe it for one second with no cams. Sorry.


+1 unless freak car as in mitsu accidently put a 9 engine on an 8 chasis


:lol:

[L84AD8]

If it was an 8, I don't believe it for one second with no cams. Sorry.


+1 unless freak car as in mitsu accidently put a 9 engine on an 8 chasis


:lol:


Probably on race gas.

[KareBearPowa]

Probably on race gas.


That I can believe.

[GraphiteMRix]

i was an 2003 evo 8 without cams on 93 octain i seen it with my own eyes go to the meets on wensday nights and see for yourself .........dont hate

[KareBearPowa]

i was an 2003 evo 8 without cams on 93 octain i seen it with my own eyes go to the meets on wensday nights and see for yourself .........dont hate


Oh god. I am not hating. It's pretty much impossible. Sorry. Something was amiss. I'm sick of you kids throwing the "Dun h8 Da PlaYa" cards out all the time. An Evo 8 without cams will not make 290whp. Where did the 20whp come from?

You say it was running 93 octane? 93 octane pump gas or a mix of 91 and 100 octane?

[UCB]

and how did he get 93 octane gas in CA? On cali pump gas it aint happening. Maybe he added torco and was closer to 95 octane?

[reglaranang]

man i know i was struggling for a while in the 290's with cams until i up graded my fuel...so i really don't know how he's hitting it with ease...

[smogrunner]

Here is mine on 91: 402whp, 375wtq. Dynojet at 20psi max boost. AFRs, as you can see are at about 11.0:1. Super safe tune for hammering around town without worries. The other graph is on race gas and higher boost.

http://socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/13960/91%20%26%20C16%20Smoggy.jpg

[KareBearPowa]

Smoggy, is this the tune with ecuflash and stock MAF? Very nice

[wilson1]

Wow, 582 on 100oct! 8)

[smogrunner]

Smoggy, is this the tune with ecuflash and stock MAF? Very nice


Stock MAF, stock head with HKS 272s, stock intake mani, stock throttle body, Simple ECUFlash. I'll probably put the Xede back on sometime soon, but it is working great without for now.

[smogrunner]

Wow, 582 on 100oct! 8)


I wish 100 octane. That was on C16.

[wilson1]

do you have a stroker?

[smogrunner]

Yeah, it is in my signature. Awesome torque and early spool. BTW guys, I know that this is a NorCal thread but I went to Cal and lived in Norcal for 6 years in Oakland and Berkeley. Does that count?

[wilson1]

Sorry to be off topic.
Hey Smoggy, how you liked your ohlins?

[KareBearPowa]

Wow, 582 on 100oct!* 8)


And a killer powerband too.

[KareBearPowa]

Stock MAF, stock head with HKS 272s, stock intake mani, stock throttle body, Simple ECUFlash. I'll probably put the Xede back on sometime soon, but it is working great without for now.


Just try not to run over your lower IC pipe next time so you can bust out some 10's. ;)

[smogrunner]

Sorry to be off topic.
Hey Smoggy, how you liked your ohlins?


The Ohlin's are just fantastic. Friends with JICs and BuddyClubs consistently say that these revalved Ohlin's ride better, even though I went with a really stiff spring rate: 550f/650r. I'll get this thing to a track with curves soon enough.

[GraphiteMRix]

mix of 91 oct and 100.........dont hate

[SJCoruja]

I don't think anyone is hating - just trying to understand the numbers for the betterment of all of us. Those numbers are basically impossible on pure 91. When you say "mix", what portion are we talking about?

[GraphiteMRix]

3.5 galons of unical76 -100 octain plus the rest of the tank 91 octain....

[KareBearPowa]

3.5 galons of unical76 -100 octain plus the rest of the tank 91 octain....


Uh huh. So he drives around with that mix EVERY tank fill up? That car will drop 15whp+ with straight 91 octane.

[wilson1]

so that is approx 92-93 oct?

[GraphiteMRix]

so thats all you want t o know

[EFIxMR]

Yeah, it is in my signature. Awesome torque and early spool. BTW guys, I know that this is a NorCal thread but I went to Cal and lived in Norcal for 6 years in Oakland and Berkeley. Does that count?


Go Bears!

[SJCoruja]

3.5 galons of unical76 -100 octain plus the rest of the tank 91 octain....


Ok cool...we're getting warmer here. So, assuming it was filled up when the gas light went on (2 gallons of 91 in the tank)...and assuming that it was then filled up completely (to 14 gallons)....that puts us at about 94 octane.

[KareBearPowa]

100 octane in small amounts gives a bigger advantage than the octane level would suggest.

It is not like just filling up on pump 93

[GraphiteMRix]

i dont know im not an F@$kn chemist all i know is 93 octain ...wow you guys are consistant let it go its 292 hp with no cams if you want to know more ask him at the meet wensday nights...

[SJCoruja]

Just killing time until I get off work, and also trying to keep the thread true to the orginal intent. :D

292 on pure 91 and 292 on a mix with 100 octane are two very different things. Props to hitting that number without cams even on a mix, but not a pure 91 street tune which is what I've been after with this thread.

[KareBearPowa]

i dont know im not an F@$kn chemist all i know is 93 octain ...wow you guys are consistant let it go its 292 hp with no cams if you want to know more ask him at the meet wensday nights...


bwahha, that post speaks volumes.

[UCB]

i dont know im not an F@$kn chemist all i know is 93 octain ...wow you guys are consistant let it go its 292 hp with no cams if you want to know more ask him at the meet wensday nights...


Hey man, simma down. We aren't trying to hate, just trying to get the facts. 292whp on the EIp dyno without cams and on cali pump isnt believable, if he is throwing in some 100octane into the mix then that explains the numbers. He could be between 93 and 95 octane IMO.

And go bears!

<--Fellow Cal Alum. Went to cal for 4 years and now live/work in the southbay

[Matz]

And go bears!
<--Fellow Cal Alum. Went to cal for 4 years and now live/work in the southbay


Let's have an EIP dyno day competition, Bears vs. Cardinals on 91 octane. Just kidding, my Evo sucks.

[spoolinalltheway]

i dont know im not an F@$kn chemist all i know is 93 octain ...wow you guys are consistant let it go its 292 hp with no cams if you want to know more ask him at the meet wensday nights...


i was there last saturday at EIPs wen "DIK" had his evo tuned to 292 hp with no cams..base was 220hp and paul couldnt understand where the extra 20 hp came from..a freak evo!!!.. juss waht graphitemr said mild mods and 99 degrees in the shop... all we can say that paul from EIP Racing is a great tuner and can make it work

[KareBearPowa]

base was 220hp and paul couldnt understand where the extra 20 hp came from..a freak evo!!!


Extra octane is where it came from.

[ek9_evo9]

i dont know im not an F@$kn chemist all i know is 93 octain ...wow you guys are consistant let it go its 292 hp with no cams if you want to know more ask him at the meet wensday nights...


i was there last saturday at EIPs wen "DIK" had his evo tuned to 292 hp with no cams..base was 220hp and paul couldnt understand where the extra 20 hp came from..a freak evo!!!.. juss waht graphitemr said mild mods and 99 degrees in the shop... all we can say that paul from EIP Racing is a great tuner and can make it work


Bryan is right extra octane. Dont think we are hating or getting on the numbers.

I agree paul is a great tuner but 91 oct on mild mods in an 8 doing 292 awhp is just crazy. im not saying its not possible but improbable unless it was done with 100 oct or a mix.

unfortunately most of us do not attend the san jose wed meets. CAan someone please get more info for us.

[UCB]

base was 220hp and paul couldnt understand where the extra 20 hp came from..a freak evo!!!


Extra octane is where it came from.


yup...just the jump from 91 to 93 alone can be 15-20whp

[thedik]

so all the disagreeing is over my silly 8 yes i tuned it with 3.5 gallons of 100 octane and the rest 91 but 20 hp from that little bit of* real octane is unreal. so in that case i am going to re-dyno my car on 91 and we will all see what octane really gets you. maybe you guys are right but maybe not. hopefully i just got a freak motor its not unheard of.

[gOt BoOsT]

dude i have '05 8 and there is NO WAY POSSIBLE to acheive those kind of #'s without lots of bolt-ons. A little 100 isn't gonna do it...read my signature

[Endoe]

With all the bolt-ons Im hoping with all my might that it will hit close or even on 300hp on a mustang dyno:
-Greddy FMIC Kit
-Invidia O2 Housing
-DC DP
-Magnaflow Cat Back
-K&N Intake
-Walbro Fuel Pump
-21lbs of boost

on 91 Octane....

I doubt it though..... maybe on 115 Octane or something....

[Hot8Evo]

I will be on this club in a few days with this mods:

Injen Intake system
XS Engineering IC
XS engineering lower pipe
Hallman MBC
SSQV HKS BOV
Helix DP
HKS Hi power exhaust
ECUTEK tuned by EIP

Total: 262whp 275 wtq

Will be adding this week:

buddy club 272/272's
Akmee (speedelement's cams)
Walbro fuel pump
Helix O2 housing
Re-tuning at EIP

I hope i'll get more than 300whp..

[KareBearPowa]

With all the bolt-ons Im hoping with all my might that it will hit close or even on 300hp on a mustang dyno:
-Greddy FMIC Kit
-Invidia O2 Housing
-DC DP
-Magnaflow Cat Back
-K&N Intake
-Walbro Fuel Pump
-21lbs of boost

on 91 Octane....

I doubt it though..... maybe on 115 Octane or something....



With Cams yes.

[thedik]

got boost thats what im saying a little octane isnt going to do what i got... mods are
tbe rmr,forge wastegate acuator,forge mbc,turbo hoses r&d upper ic pipe, to everyone its just a freak motor accept it if you want to see it listen to it what ever go wednesday night meet. i dont understand the big debate. just live with it if not cry me a river then build a bridge and get over it.....

[Positron]

Stop being a dik! We believe u!

[KareBearPowa]

I don't.

[thedik]

positron only cause youve seen it

[thedik]

early apex well then cry me a river

[KareBearPowa]

early apex well then cry me a river


Sorry, not possible with 91 octane and no cams.

[SpeedElement]

damn i just made 400whp and 400lb/tq with no cams last night!


































in my dream

[Yohan2NV]

damn i just made 400whp and 400lb/tq with no cams last night!



































in my dream


Was I there?

Yohan

[wzcx]

See the EIP tuning thread for more info- but I've got 293tq/290hp on 91. Dyno charts and maps are in the thread.

[dabaysevo]

I had 295/255 on Gruppe-S dyno back in March/April, ecutek by Mike.* Then two weeks ago I was tuned at Full Function by Shiv with the only change being that I added the Xede,* Shiv asked me if he could do a baseline, the car made 275whp on the ecutek tune, back to back.* When Shiv retuned it with the Xede he made 293/267 on 21psi, I am itching to see if I would break the 300whp mark on the Gruppe-S dyno with a basic Vishnu Stage 1++.* That would be sweet if the 20whp diffrence from the FF dyno transfered to the Gruppe-S dyno, but I highly doubt it, a guy can dream though.:)

[Lurk]

I'm about to break my previous record very shortly. With the stock turbo still...

[ST]

i need more power for my epeen =(

[UCB]

I'm about to break my previous record very shortly. With the stock turbo still...


meth or race gas? What are your mods again?

[Lurk]

.

[UCB]

lol..mods?? :lol:

[Lurk]

.

[SpeedElement]

yup, can't wait til Lurk's get back on the road. It will definitely be a screamer once its all completed.

[lncrevoviii]

aiight Lurk tell em who it is, its 25th and Broadway bietch. :lol:

Glad your car is back up on its feet. Can't wait to get a ride. ;)

[UCB]

lol..mods?? :lol:


:D Alot of Cosworth parts in the motor and everything is balanced and blueprinted. As far as boltons go, full catless TBE, ECUTEK reflash, and an intake. That's it. Still running stock turbo manifold and 02 housing. Still 2.0L displacement, but should be able to rev higher than an S2K. ;)


you on HT too?

[KareBearPowa]

running stock turbo but with 9,000+ rpm?

[UCB]

im guessing its just a pre-curser with a bigger turbo added later

or..25-28psi on meth :P

[Lurk]

running stock turbo but with 9,000+ rpm?


For now, but I smell a 50 trim or a 3076 going in under the hood later on. When money and time permits.

[KareBearPowa]

running stock turbo but with 9,000+ rpm?


For now, but I smell a 50 trim or a 3076 going in under the hood later on. When money and time permits.


Ah, very nice. You do know the stock turbo won't make any power past 8k though right? It really starts to drop like a rock at 7500

[Lurk]

running stock turbo but with 9,000+ rpm?


For now, but I smell a 50 trim or a 3076 going in under the hood later on. When money and time permits.


Ah, very nice. You do know the stock turbo won't make any power past 8k though right? It really starts to drop like a rock at 7500


Yeah, I was told before that 7500rpm is really when the stock turbo starts to run out of breath. No point revving past its efficiency range. That's why I'm going to install a real turbo later on to take advantage of the built motor's potential. :D

[smogrunner]

I guess I don't qualify for the roll call...

[KareBearPowa]

Aren't you socal Smoggy?

[smogrunner]

Aren't you socal Smoggy?


Yes I am. I lived in Berkeley and Oakland for six years, went to Cal, and Shiv tuned my car in Pleasanton three times in the past couple of years. So I'm close to qualifying, if there is such a thing.

[evo_dadi]

hey tom give me a ride on your evo again to see if you qualify,ill pay your starbucks this time ;)

[EFIxMR]

what did you study at Cal smog?

[smogrunner]

EFIxMR,
History and English, but the degree is in History. Anyway, don't want to go too far off topic. Hi Marcel.

[EVO GRIM]

Hey Tom I've been meaning to ask you what your track tune hp/tq #'s are, and at what psI and what oct?

[smogrunner]

Hey Tom I've been meaning to ask you what your track tune hp/tq #'s are, and at what psI and what oct?


I don't have any whp/wtq numbers for road racing, but for drag racing we ran 30.6 psi boost (peak and hold function of Zeitronix told me so) with C16 fuel. That was 570whp and 504wtq. That's what got us the 11.0 at 128.

[UCB]

Nice numbers mang :D

<<--Fellow Cal Alum

got my BS in ME

[EFIxMR]

<-- perpetually stuck in college 9 units away from my degree at Cal.

[UCB]

Hurry up and finish mang :P

Can you take summer or extension classes to knock those out?

[Steiner]

Did this thread die?

[SpeedElement]

with andy's schedule tuning on cars, i don't think he has time to finish .. lol

[SJCoruja]

I can update the first list if anyone wants to PM me updates/additions. I got a little lost with all the extra info, so please let's keep it to the following criteria for now:

NorCal only
ONLY pure 91 octane
No meth/water/NOS etc
Stock Evo turbo or minor variations (TME, IX turbo, etc)
Safe/reliable street/track tunes - please list AFRs, boost, peak timing, etc

[ST]

if u are going to partake in enforcing this endeavor, i'd suggest you have folks post their dyno sheets at a minimum...AND also post avg hp/tq/etc. ... anyone can make peak numbers, but the overall numbers might be shitty still...

[Steiner]

'05 Evo VIII RS: TBE, test pipe, 264in/272ex cams, cam gears (drawing a blank of the settings right now), 720cc injectors, fuel pump, OEM IX turbo, 91 octane, 21psi & AFR's between 10.6 and 11.1.

283whp/284wtq on the EIP mustang dyno